Oberst Gustav Koboldt
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Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Yes , I know , he is already mentioned in this thread :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... dt&start=0
Regarding My info he was Kdr. i.V. of the 96. ID in September and Oktober 1944 and then send to the Divisonsführer-Lehrgänge ( but there my info ends ) .
Has anybody more about him ?
Jan-Hendrik
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... dt&start=0
Regarding My info he was Kdr. i.V. of the 96. ID in September and Oktober 1944 and then send to the Divisonsführer-Lehrgänge ( but there my info ends ) .
Has anybody more about him ?
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http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic.php?t=5413
It seems he took over GR 283 in the middle of August 1944 . In September and Oktober he was Divisionskommandeur i.V. of the 96er and should have beens sent to the Divisionsführerlehrgänge in Oktober/November ...
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It seems he took over GR 283 in the middle of August 1944 . In September and Oktober he was Divisionskommandeur i.V. of the 96er and should have beens sent to the Divisionsführerlehrgänge in Oktober/November ...
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
*push*
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Hello,
another small detail:
Oberst Gustav Koboldt
* Mar 9th, 1899, Łódź (= Litzmannstadt)
Source:
N.N.
Im Ehrenblatt des Heeres genannt.
Litzmannstädter Zeitung of Nov. 12th, 1944; 14. Jahrgang, Nr. 304; p.3
http://bc.wimbp.lodz.pl/Content/30044/L ... Nr+304.pdf
Could he be identical to the Oberst Koboldt who was Divisionsführer of 416. Infanteriedivision from Apr 5th, 1945 - May 3rd, 1945?
(http://www.ordersofbattle.com/Units/Uni ... UniX=13470)
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Torsten
another small detail:
Oberst Gustav Koboldt
* Mar 9th, 1899, Łódź (= Litzmannstadt)
Source:
N.N.
Im Ehrenblatt des Heeres genannt.
Litzmannstädter Zeitung of Nov. 12th, 1944; 14. Jahrgang, Nr. 304; p.3
http://bc.wimbp.lodz.pl/Content/30044/L ... Nr+304.pdf
Could he be identical to the Oberst Koboldt who was Divisionsführer of 416. Infanteriedivision from Apr 5th, 1945 - May 3rd, 1945?
(http://www.ordersofbattle.com/Units/Uni ... UniX=13470)
Best regards
Torsten
Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Hello Jan-Hendrik and Torsten
You are confusing. All Your data (given here) refer to "Heinz" (not to Gustav)
Regards, Rossano
You are confusing. All Your data (given here) refer to "Heinz" (not to Gustav)
Regards, Rossano
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Hello Rossano,
so 'Gustav Koboldt' never existed and is just the result of one or several press release(s) using a wrong christian name for Heinz Koboldt?
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Torsten
so 'Gustav Koboldt' never existed and is just the result of one or several press release(s) using a wrong christian name for Heinz Koboldt?
Best regards
Torsten
Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
P.S. (clarification) : Gustav Gren.Rgt. 945 only, all rest is Heinz. Regards, Rossano
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Hi Rossano,
thanks for clarification so the notice in Litzmannstädter Zeitung is still valid.
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Torsten
thanks for clarification so the notice in Litzmannstädter Zeitung is still valid.
Best regards
Torsten
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Hello friends,
flipping through an old newspaper I just experienced a very big surprise: Actually Oberst Gustav Koboldt and Oberst Heinz Koboldt are one and the same man!!! His full name was:
Gustav Heinz Koboldt (*)
* Mar 9th, 1899, Łódź (= Lodsch or Litzmannstadt) (**)
*) You frequently find his family name spelt as 'Kobold' like in the article above but when you check the details provided with the Berlin address books there's a Bankprokurist a.D. Gustav Koboldt who appears for the first time in the 1922 Berlin address book. That's in unison with the family history in this article. Many writers including officials obviously chose the standard spelling 'Kobold' (= gremlin) based on the identical phonetics.
**) This article says he's born Mar 8th, 1899. I think after the first article Koboldt sent a letter with corrections (name an such) to the editor so the 1944 copy of Litzmannstädter Zeitung looks more trustworthy to me.
According to Stadtmüller (1982, p.647) it was Oberst Gustav Koboldt who took over command of the 416. Infanterie-Division on Apr 5th, 1945 from Generalmajor Kurt Pflieger. (Stadtmüller too misspells the name as 'Gustav Kobold'.)
References:
Dr. F. W.
Mit dem DK. in Gold ausgezeichnet
Litzmannstädter Zeitung of Dec. 4th, 1943; 26. Jahrgang; Nr. 338, page 3
http://bc.wimbp.lodz.pl/Content/29632/L ... Nr+338.pdf
Stadtmüller, Alois
Maingebiet und Spessart im Zweiten Weltkrieg.
Überblick, Luftkrieg, Eroberungen
Veröffentlichungen des Geschichts- und Kunstvereins Aschaffenburg e.V., Vol.19; Aschaffenburg; 1982
Best regards
Torsten
flipping through an old newspaper I just experienced a very big surprise: Actually Oberst Gustav Koboldt and Oberst Heinz Koboldt are one and the same man!!! His full name was:
Gustav Heinz Koboldt (*)
* Mar 9th, 1899, Łódź (= Lodsch or Litzmannstadt) (**)
*) You frequently find his family name spelt as 'Kobold' like in the article above but when you check the details provided with the Berlin address books there's a Bankprokurist a.D. Gustav Koboldt who appears for the first time in the 1922 Berlin address book. That's in unison with the family history in this article. Many writers including officials obviously chose the standard spelling 'Kobold' (= gremlin) based on the identical phonetics.
**) This article says he's born Mar 8th, 1899. I think after the first article Koboldt sent a letter with corrections (name an such) to the editor so the 1944 copy of Litzmannstädter Zeitung looks more trustworthy to me.
According to Stadtmüller (1982, p.647) it was Oberst Gustav Koboldt who took over command of the 416. Infanterie-Division on Apr 5th, 1945 from Generalmajor Kurt Pflieger. (Stadtmüller too misspells the name as 'Gustav Kobold'.)
References:
Dr. F. W.
Mit dem DK. in Gold ausgezeichnet
Litzmannstädter Zeitung of Dec. 4th, 1943; 26. Jahrgang; Nr. 338, page 3
http://bc.wimbp.lodz.pl/Content/29632/L ... Nr+338.pdf
Stadtmüller, Alois
Maingebiet und Spessart im Zweiten Weltkrieg.
Überblick, Luftkrieg, Eroberungen
Veröffentlichungen des Geschichts- und Kunstvereins Aschaffenburg e.V., Vol.19; Aschaffenburg; 1982
Best regards
Torsten
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Lieber Torsten,
I wish to express my gratitude and appreciation for another outstanding research passionately written by a proven expert
Keep it up ad multos annos !!
Dieter
I wish to express my gratitude and appreciation for another outstanding research passionately written by a proven expert
Keep it up ad multos annos !!
Dieter
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Lieber Dieter,
vielen Dank für das große Lob . Da puzzelt man doch gerne noch ein bißchen weiter an all den verworrenen und undurchsichtigen Fällen.
I've found some other stuff that obviously refers to Gustav Heinz Koboldt too.
There's a Hauptmann/Major Koboldt who features repeatedly in the war time memoirs of Erich Mende in the period summer 1939 - Oct 1941 when Mende served in Infanterie-Regiment 84. The details Mende provides about him show striking parallels with the short CV in Litzmannstädter Zeitung above :
Mende's Koboldt had served in WWI and was a Leutnant by war's end (Mende, p.213).
He had lived in South America (Paraguay and Bolivia) for some years as a farmer, language teacher and (military?) instructor (Mende, p.213). [Personally I suspect Koboldt was an advisor to the Bolivian Army prior to and during the the Chaco War against Paraguay in 1932 - 1935. The Bolivians at the time employed quite a number of German veterans like General Hans Kundt and Ernst Röhm. Such latest war experience also would explain to some extent why the Reichswehr rehired Koboldt.]
After Hitler came to power Koboldt returned to Germany and joined the military again. Mende (p.213) says this
was in 1936.
Koboldt was wounded when he crossed the Meuse (Maas) in a dinghi on May 14th, 1940. A grenade exploded next
to the boat and he had half an ear torn off (Mende, pp.123).
Taking into account that Mende wrote about him four decades later and just from memory it's clear he's referring to the same person as Litzmannstädter Zeitung (which surely added its own share of journalistic freedom as well).
From Dec 24th, 1941 till late January 1942 this Major Koboldt was Regimentsführer of Infanterie-Regiment 84
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... enter/IR84.
Koboldt took over Grenadier-Regiment 521 as an Oberstleutnant (Lt.-Col.) in April 1943.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... R521-R.htm
References:
Mende, Erich
Das verdammte Gewissen.
Bastei Lübbe Verlag; Bergisch Gladbach; 1985
Best regards
Torsten
vielen Dank für das große Lob . Da puzzelt man doch gerne noch ein bißchen weiter an all den verworrenen und undurchsichtigen Fällen.
I've found some other stuff that obviously refers to Gustav Heinz Koboldt too.
There's a Hauptmann/Major Koboldt who features repeatedly in the war time memoirs of Erich Mende in the period summer 1939 - Oct 1941 when Mende served in Infanterie-Regiment 84. The details Mende provides about him show striking parallels with the short CV in Litzmannstädter Zeitung above :
Mende's Koboldt had served in WWI and was a Leutnant by war's end (Mende, p.213).
He had lived in South America (Paraguay and Bolivia) for some years as a farmer, language teacher and (military?) instructor (Mende, p.213). [Personally I suspect Koboldt was an advisor to the Bolivian Army prior to and during the the Chaco War against Paraguay in 1932 - 1935. The Bolivians at the time employed quite a number of German veterans like General Hans Kundt and Ernst Röhm. Such latest war experience also would explain to some extent why the Reichswehr rehired Koboldt.]
After Hitler came to power Koboldt returned to Germany and joined the military again. Mende (p.213) says this
was in 1936.
Koboldt was wounded when he crossed the Meuse (Maas) in a dinghi on May 14th, 1940. A grenade exploded next
to the boat and he had half an ear torn off (Mende, pp.123).
Taking into account that Mende wrote about him four decades later and just from memory it's clear he's referring to the same person as Litzmannstädter Zeitung (which surely added its own share of journalistic freedom as well).
From Dec 24th, 1941 till late January 1942 this Major Koboldt was Regimentsführer of Infanterie-Regiment 84
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... enter/IR84.
Koboldt took over Grenadier-Regiment 521 as an Oberstleutnant (Lt.-Col.) in April 1943.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... R521-R.htm
References:
Mende, Erich
Das verdammte Gewissen.
Bastei Lübbe Verlag; Bergisch Gladbach; 1985
Best regards
Torsten
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Great!!
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Koboldt, Gustav Georg Alois, *9.3.1899 in Łódź. His Personal-Nachweis clearly states "Gustav Georg Alois" and his own signature is "Gustav Koboldt". For some reason, however, his 1.4.43 Beurteilung from Stoßgruppe Oberst Källner gives his name as "Heinz". And as noted above, several other sources have "Heinz" or "Gustav Heinz".
Dienstlaufbahn:
25.5.15 Kriegsfreiwilliger Ers./Gren.-Rgt. 6
8.7.15 Gefreiter
8.1.16 unter Überführung in die Reihe der Fahnenjunker zum Ers./Füs.-Rgt. 37 vers.
12.2.16 Unteroffizier
16.3.16 Fähnrich
24.10.16 mit FR 37 ins Feld
20.5.17 Leutnant
8.7.17-8.10.17 kdrt. z. Sturm-Kp. d. 10. Res.-Div.
26.3.19 z.d. Res.Offze. d. Rgts. übergeführt
27.3.19 dem baltischen Grenzschutz z.Verf. gestellt
1.8.19 ausgeschieden
4.1.37-31.1.37 Auswahlübung beim IR 84
1.2.37 als E-Offz.Anwärter beim Ausb.Leiter Gleiwitz angestellt
1.4.37 als Lt.d.R. b. IR 67 (RDA 1.3.24) angestellt
1.8.37 m.W.v. 1.5.37 als Hptm.(E) (RDA 1.10.34) beim Ausb.Leiter Gleiwitz angestellt
3.1.39 i.d. IR 84 versetzt; Kp.Fhr. bis 30.3.40
16.2.39 mit d. 1.3.39 z.d. aktiv. Tr.Offz. übergeführt (RDA 1.4.34)
1.1.40 Major
1.4.40-6.4.42 Btls.Kdr. IR 84
14.5.40 verwundet
1.4.42 Oberstleutnant
21.7.42 m.W.v. 25.6.42 i.d. Ausb.St. f. Jagdbtl. (z.Verw. als Btl.Fhr.) vers.
18.11.42 m.W.v. 12.10.42 Kdr. Jäger-Btl. 11
20.4.43 m.W.v. 21.2.43 Fhr.Res. OKH
19.6.43 m.W.v. 25.4.43 Kdr. GR 521
29.9.43 Fhr.Res. OKH
1.11.43 Oberst
15.5.44 Kdr. GR 945
8.9.44 Kdr. GR 283
12.9.44 m.d.stellv.Fhrg. d. 96.ID beauftr.
10.11.44 Fhr.Res. OKH
21.11.44-19.12.44 kdrt. z. 16. Div.Fhr.Lehrg.
8.2.45 kdrt. z. OB West z. Einarb. als Div.Kdr.
Bekannte Auszeichnungen:
31.5.17 1914 Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse
15.6.21 1914 Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse
29.1.35 Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
16.3.38 Wehrmacht (Heer) Dienstauszeichnung 4.Klasse
2.10.39 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuz 2. Klasse
30.6.40 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuz 1. Klasse
9.7.40 Verwundetenabzeichen in schwarz
19.11.42 Medaille "Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/2"
3.11.1943 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold
Dienstlaufbahn:
25.5.15 Kriegsfreiwilliger Ers./Gren.-Rgt. 6
8.7.15 Gefreiter
8.1.16 unter Überführung in die Reihe der Fahnenjunker zum Ers./Füs.-Rgt. 37 vers.
12.2.16 Unteroffizier
16.3.16 Fähnrich
24.10.16 mit FR 37 ins Feld
20.5.17 Leutnant
8.7.17-8.10.17 kdrt. z. Sturm-Kp. d. 10. Res.-Div.
26.3.19 z.d. Res.Offze. d. Rgts. übergeführt
27.3.19 dem baltischen Grenzschutz z.Verf. gestellt
1.8.19 ausgeschieden
4.1.37-31.1.37 Auswahlübung beim IR 84
1.2.37 als E-Offz.Anwärter beim Ausb.Leiter Gleiwitz angestellt
1.4.37 als Lt.d.R. b. IR 67 (RDA 1.3.24) angestellt
1.8.37 m.W.v. 1.5.37 als Hptm.(E) (RDA 1.10.34) beim Ausb.Leiter Gleiwitz angestellt
3.1.39 i.d. IR 84 versetzt; Kp.Fhr. bis 30.3.40
16.2.39 mit d. 1.3.39 z.d. aktiv. Tr.Offz. übergeführt (RDA 1.4.34)
1.1.40 Major
1.4.40-6.4.42 Btls.Kdr. IR 84
14.5.40 verwundet
1.4.42 Oberstleutnant
21.7.42 m.W.v. 25.6.42 i.d. Ausb.St. f. Jagdbtl. (z.Verw. als Btl.Fhr.) vers.
18.11.42 m.W.v. 12.10.42 Kdr. Jäger-Btl. 11
20.4.43 m.W.v. 21.2.43 Fhr.Res. OKH
19.6.43 m.W.v. 25.4.43 Kdr. GR 521
29.9.43 Fhr.Res. OKH
1.11.43 Oberst
15.5.44 Kdr. GR 945
8.9.44 Kdr. GR 283
12.9.44 m.d.stellv.Fhrg. d. 96.ID beauftr.
10.11.44 Fhr.Res. OKH
21.11.44-19.12.44 kdrt. z. 16. Div.Fhr.Lehrg.
8.2.45 kdrt. z. OB West z. Einarb. als Div.Kdr.
Bekannte Auszeichnungen:
31.5.17 1914 Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse
15.6.21 1914 Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse
29.1.35 Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
16.3.38 Wehrmacht (Heer) Dienstauszeichnung 4.Klasse
2.10.39 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuz 2. Klasse
30.6.40 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuz 1. Klasse
9.7.40 Verwundetenabzeichen in schwarz
19.11.42 Medaille "Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/2"
3.11.1943 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold
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Re: Oberst Gustav Koboldt
Bravo Dave! Excellent Information!
Dieter
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