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by per70
26 Sep 2023, 20:28
Forum: What if
Topic: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats
Replies: 96
Views: 4337

Re: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats

... of aircraft. Too bad we don’t have serviceable numbers. So without the Rzhev attack, and subsequent transfer of the three Gruppen, there is a chance ... hit by the Soviet Aug 10 attack. Could have turned into an interesting battle, but I have my doubts on whether launching the attack - even with ...
by per70
26 Sep 2023, 17:46
Forum: What if
Topic: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats
Replies: 96
Views: 4337

Re: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats

... to "immense superiority". And had that been the case for the entire Rzhev bulge sector, I would certainly agree. When it is only a Soviet estimate of the force ratio in the breakthrough sector on the eve of battle; not so much. That is the benefit of launching an attack – you can focus ...
by KDF33
26 Sep 2023, 16:36
Forum: What if
Topic: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats
Replies: 96
Views: 4337

Re: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats

... have been better. Personally, I have never read a review of the battle of First Rzhev-Sychevka that did not mention the narrow margin by which the Germans more or less held ...
by Aida1
26 Sep 2023, 15:54
Forum: What if
Topic: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats
Replies: 96
Views: 4337

Re: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats

... using "immense superiority" to describe the Soviet situation around the Rzhev bulge in August 1942. If that were the case, they ought to have done ... GD regiment to the Rzhev bulge – also arriving at the tail end of the battle. Were any other major units transferred from the outside to face this ...
by Peter89
26 Sep 2023, 08:58
Forum: What if
Topic: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats
Replies: 96
Views: 4337

Re: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats

... using "immense superiority" to describe the Soviet situation around the Rzhev bulge in August 1942. If that were the case, they ought to have done ... GD regiment to the Rzhev bulge – also arriving at the tail end of the battle. Were any other major units transferred from the outside to face this ...
by KDF33
25 Sep 2023, 20:59
Forum: What if
Topic: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats
Replies: 96
Views: 4337

Re: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats

Which other parts of 11th Army was sent to Rzhev? Or was it only the one division? I'm also aware that they sent the GD regiment to the Rzhev bulge – also arriving at the tail end of the battle. Were any other major units transferred from the outside to face this immensely ...
by per70
25 Sep 2023, 19:36
Forum: What if
Topic: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats
Replies: 96
Views: 4337

Re: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats

... using "immense superiority" to describe the Soviet situation around the Rzhev bulge in August 1942. If that were the case, they ought to have done ... GD regiment to the Rzhev bulge – also arriving at the tail end of the battle. Were any other major units transferred from the outside to face this ...
by Art
25 Sep 2023, 11:00
Forum: The Soviet Union at War 1917-1945
Topic: Stalingrad Battles query
Replies: 5
Views: 1514

Re: Stalingrad Battles query

A final thought about the battle for Stalingrad; we will never know the true human cost of this battle, the best ... to that most viscous (as in casualties) of all battles known as the Battles Of Rzhev; or more commonly the 'Rzhev meat grinder'. In a series of battles ought from ...
by Konig_pilsner
23 Sep 2023, 05:26
Forum: What if
Topic: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats
Replies: 96
Views: 4337

Re: Hitler doesn't intervene in military strategies/tactics/retreats

... is that the circumstances did not allow such as operation. This was not Rzhev in 1943. The reason why people debate Moscow or Kiev in 1941, Case ... the time and skip the wiki, buy one of those $200 old accounts of the battle and then type up a what-if of your perfectly executed withdrawal. ...
by Aida1
17 Jun 2023, 16:23
Forum: What if
Topic: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.
Replies: 705
Views: 21507

Re: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.

... committed to 9. Armee and participated in the defense against the 1st Rzhev–Sychyovka Offensive. At various times through September it had subordinated: ... trying to claim that less firepower has no effect on the outcome of a battle. And that is simply not true. By the time fighting takes place ...
by Peter89
17 Jun 2023, 15:50
Forum: What if
Topic: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.
Replies: 705
Views: 21507

Re: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.

... committed to 9. Armee and participated in the defense against the 1st Rzhev–Sychyovka Offensive. At various times through September it had subordinated: ... trying to claim that less firepower has no effect on the outcome of a battle. And that is simply not true. By the time fighting takes place ...
by LachenKrieg
17 Jun 2023, 15:41
Forum: What if
Topic: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.
Replies: 705
Views: 21507

Re: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.

... committed to 9. Armee and participated in the defense against the 1st Rzhev–Sychyovka Offensive. At various times through September it had subordinated: ... trying to claim that less firepower has no effect on the outcome of a battle. And that is simply not true. By the time fighting takes place ...
by LachenKrieg
17 Jun 2023, 13:16
Forum: What if
Topic: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.
Replies: 705
Views: 21507

Re: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.

... then how do you explain the fact that German forces were able to hold Rzhev after nearly 2 years of constant Russian attacks? Or did the Germans ... monster and the battery was quickly overrun. A vicious hand-to-hand battle ensued between the advancing Russians and the German infantry during ...
by Peter89
16 Jun 2023, 19:42
Forum: What if
Topic: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.
Replies: 705
Views: 21507

Re: The Army Ordnance Department plays a role in the outcome at Stalingrad.

... then how do you explain the fact that German forces were able to hold Rzhev after nearly 2 years of constant Russian attacks? Or did the Germans ... monster and the battery was quickly overrun. A vicious hand-to-hand battle ensued between the advancing Russians and the German infantry during ...
by Peter89
30 Mar 2023, 10:25
Forum: What if
Topic: What if the Germans attack Leningrad in 1942?
Replies: 240
Views: 14544

Re: What if the Germans attack Leningrad in 1942?

... 30th Army? Yes, we can. Does it mean anything? Not really. In the First Rzhev-Sychevka Offensive Operation 16 German divisions lost 50 to 80 percent ... for the consequences and “provide detailed instructions as to how the battle is to be continued.” In the First Rzhev-Sychevka, the Soviets lost ...

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