German 1933 to 1944 seals

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Ernie-M
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German 1933 to 1944 seals

Postby Ernie-M » 11 Jan 2013 05:02

New person to the site. Would like to start collecting rubber/brass stamps. Anyone know where I can start to build a collection ? Thanks, Ernie

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Re: German 1933 to 1944 seals

Postby John G. » 11 Jan 2013 13:50

Ernie-M, :welcome:
BEWARE OF ALL THE FAKES of these out there.....Both rubber and metal versions are heavily reproduced and mounted on vintage handles.....so if you want to specialize in these, you need to know both German lettering styles and proper formation of "Units, addresses, locations, and the like"....as well as have studied period "stamp markings" to know what they should look like......

Originals are quite scarce.....in over 50 years of collecting I've only turned maybe a half dozen out of the "woodwork"....but have seen literally 1,000s of supposedly originals for sale.....many with the same "text", and many are completely "fantasy" stamps.....

Unless you know you stuff.....I'd hold off "going crazy".....both rubber and metal stamps are relatively easy to reproduce by a skilled craftsman.....and how would you know??????

Most "big" dealers handle "Document stamps".....which ones are on the "up and up" you'd have to determine for yourself.
Good luck.....
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Re: German 1933 to 1944 seals

Postby Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 12 Jan 2013 17:00

Yes....The ***Up and Up** is great advice.Stay away from several Proxibid/Live Auctioneer auction sitres that have these on a regular basis.

These are very easy to fake, as modern stamp makers use computer scanned images and use lazer cutters.( I know, as I have *dobne this* myself)on both rubber and metal base.

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Re: German 1933 to 1944 seals

Postby Ernie-M » 15 Jan 2013 04:35

Thanks guys

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Re: German 1933 to 1944 seals

Postby cpittman » 16 Jan 2013 20:46

John gives good advice. Most of the metal stamps you will encounter are simply fakes, made mostly in Eastern Europe. These very often are mounted to a sort of lathe-turned round handle that is a hallmark of these kind of fakes, that you should learn to recognize. Original document stamps are very scarce.

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Re: German 1933 to 1944 seals

Postby Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 17 Jan 2013 02:02

A pair of repro/fantasy rubber stamps... courtesy manions (being offered as repro)
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Re: German 1933 to 1944 seals

Postby Dienstuhr » 21 Jan 2013 23:50

Ditto. Owned and sold some over the years. Anymore, they make my teeth itch just to look at them. Knew a guy in the mid-80's that put me off of stamps then, may still have a couple he gave me for Christmas with a bottle of something. Even labels give me an itch now. You are a better man than me if you can buy them and know they are right. In retrospect, wonder if the ones that "smelled right" were any good either.

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Re: German 1933 to 1944 seals

Postby eldar1 » 22 Jan 2013 04:37

Ernie-M if you dont have a problem with repro's Outpostflags,com sells them at 24.95 a pop.They have divisional stamps and document stamps.


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