This dagger SS original or fake?

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This dagger SS original or fake?

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Post by LeonT » 15 Aug 2011, 22:11

Welcome! This is an original remake with a dagger or a SA.RZM incomprehensible without a date, there is no stigma of the SS.Blade thickness of 5.5 mm near the trailer in the middle of 5, with the motto of 4.6 mm
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Re: This dagger SS original or fake?

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Post by LeonT » 15 Aug 2011, 22:15

Could carried daggers with the stigma?Could carried daggers with the stigma? Unbranded SS as in the picture?
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Re: This dagger SS original or fake?

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Post by LeonT » 20 Aug 2011, 09:08

What no one knows or does not meet such a blade?

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Post by John G. » 20 Aug 2011, 13:43

The front etching looks "good", but the RZM marking has all the signs of being "fake" (jaggered edges, poor defination....) I don't recall seeing an SS RZM blade that didn't have the SS codes....but I'm NOT a dagger expert (I don't collect them myself!).....there are forums dedicated to Daggers....you'd probably be better off checking with "them"....sorry I can't be of more help....
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Post by LeonT » 20 Aug 2011, 18:25

John G. wrote:The front etching looks "good", but the RZM marking has all the signs of being "fake" (jaggered edges, poor defination....) I don't recall seeing an SS RZM blade that didn't have the SS codes....but I'm NOT a dagger expert (I don't collect them myself!).....there are forums dedicated to Daggers....you'd probably be better off checking with "them"....sorry I can't be of more help....
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Thank you! Can you give references index (forums dedicated to Daggers).Thank you! Can you give links to forums on the daggers.

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Post by von thoma » 21 Aug 2011, 04:08

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An example of original blade markings for RZM M 7/80 with contract codes.
Only SA Daggers of Gustav C. Spitzer haven't codes.
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Post by LeonT » 09 Sep 2011, 09:05

What should be the size, thickness, blade in mm?

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Post by scruffy » 10 Sep 2011, 16:09

i strongly suspect that its a copy ,...
it clearly looks like it was refinished , or artificially aged with intent to deceive,
the tip looks like it was milled 'off center ' a major red flag ,
either a downright 'aged ' fake , or a beat up blade that was poorly restored

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Post by LeonT » 11 Sep 2011, 16:13

scruffy wrote:i strongly suspect that its a copy ,...
it clearly looks like it was refinished , or artificially aged with intent to deceive,
the tip looks like it was milled 'off center ' a major red flag ,
either a downright 'aged ' fake , or a beat up blade that was poorly restored
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Post by case white » 01 Oct 2011, 22:11

im sorry
it looks a fake but have a brother who deals in daggers swords has some ss ones

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Re: This dagger SS original or fake?

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Post by Marcelina » 25 Dec 2016, 07:34

Hello everyone.
I recently purchased a hunting dagger from ww2 era Germany. Can anybody help me please identity its authenticity?
Thanks Marcelina
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Post by von thoma » 25 Dec 2016, 19:14

Based in designs of hunting daggers of Germany, really it's a fantasy piece " nazified ", wears in the handle a SA/SS/NSKK eagle
for it's exclusive use on these nazi party daggers.
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Post by Marcelina » 27 Dec 2016, 23:14

Thank you for your help! Fortunately i was able to return it!

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