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Looking for info on this.

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Post by nitram22 » 10 Dec 2014, 22:38

Looking to see if anyone can give me info on this.
Not looking to sell but curious about value.
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Post by John G. » 11 Dec 2014, 11:53

:welcome:
Appears to be a very "art-deco" (stylized) version of an M-29 NSDAP eagle.... either a desk stand or plaque.... better quality than most.... unique horizontal wing feathers, etc., very attractive and unique in this pattern (to me, anyway)...

The normal versions are fairly common.... (normal wing patterns, etc.)

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Post by nitram22 » 11 Dec 2014, 21:55

Thanks for the reply!

So in your opinion is not authentic WWII?

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Post by John G. » 12 Dec 2014, 11:57

nitram22 wrote:Thanks for the reply!

So in your opinion is not authentic WWII?
Hard to be sure without seeing it "in hand", but it looks original "on the face of it".... copies are usually of much poorer quality and cast in "whitemetal" .... plus being "unique", if copied.... we'd be seeing more of this style eagle (straight feathers).

Usually items like this have maker or foundry markings.....

Nice eagle IMO.... (from what I can see).
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Post by nitram22 » 14 Dec 2014, 17:15

There would be markings if it was original?

How would one tell if it is original.
As you said, from other pics the wings are all diiferent.

Still uncertain if it's real or not.

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Post by rlimike » 15 Dec 2014, 02:39

If it is attached to the wood with screws or bolts .... remove them and there may be foundry / maker marks on the back of the eagle.If it has post pictures of the back and someone may be able to help you further.

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Post by nitram22 » 19 Dec 2014, 19:59

Her are some pics of the back.
Don't see any makings??

Thanks.
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Post by Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 21 Dec 2014, 04:54

I am searching for this adler. Here is a poster of such stylized one, NOT the same, but similiar. Will keep searching
I think the posted adler is genuine TR, as several have written, great details and sharp edges, most all repros/fantasy ones are poorly made. germans had hundreds of different adler designs. And you are correct, if a repro.etc. more would have shown up in marketplace.
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Post by Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 21 Dec 2014, 05:07

Yours would be one of these types.Desk Eagle. the pic I posted is of a *faked one, but you get the idea as of to use. Yours has leg pegs,so it will sit square and straight to the desktop, Missing the extension arm support.
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Post by John G. » 22 Dec 2014, 12:35

Mark is showing the "typical" M-29 NSDAP Eagle "stand" (Copy).... yours was originally made to stand the same way (I thought everyone knew the wooden box was just for display).... I don't see any foundry marks but I'd still say it's "probably" real.... differant. Value probably between $150./250. retail.... unless it turns out to be a reproduction after all....

One of the reasons these type items are "under appreciated" is because of the ease in making professional copies.... (rings, too!) that have flooded the market....

What is the provenance of the eagle?.... sometimes the source can be a big clue.... where did you get it? Heirloom?, yard sale?, or Eastern European Flea market?... Sometimes you can never be 100% sure..!
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