Wellner cupholders

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Shich
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Wellner cupholders

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Post by Shich » 10 Mar 2016, 08:51

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What can you say about these cupholders? Does it have any value? Wellner silent.
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Post by John G. » 10 Mar 2016, 20:05

Appears to be an old "Wellner" sugar bowl, the engraved "RK eagle" on the lid appears to be recently added to make it something special. Much better photos of that area would be required.... but looks "sub-standard" from what I can see...
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Post by Shich » 10 Mar 2016, 21:11

You mean it is fake?
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Post by Mark in Cleveland, Tn. » 10 Mar 2016, 21:22

Exactly what JohnG means,fako all the way

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Post by John G. » 11 Mar 2016, 02:27

The eagle now needs close comparison to known original "R.K." silverware & serving pieces... stands a slim chance of being real, would need an expert on Wellner and the engraving style... which I'm not.

If real, this would be from the regular "mess hall" for employees & staff.... not the formal "Diplomatic Dinnerware". Value would be in the moderate level IMO. However, this "type" stuff is easily faked and must be viewed with suspicion until proved otherwise.
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Post by Shich » 11 Mar 2016, 08:15

Thank you very much for the detailed explanation. Now I know more)

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Post by Shich » 11 Mar 2016, 10:42

Oops!
Letter from Wellner:

...nein, Ihre Tassen sind ein Original, erkennen wir am Stempel. Durch die politischen Ereignisse nach dem 2.Weltkrieg (DDR-Zeiten) wurden viele Gegenstände der Firma Wellner vernichtet. Deswegen gibt es kaum noch alte Unterlagen, wie Fertigungspapiere, Kataloge oder sonstige Aufzeichnungen. Da Wellner Kriegsproduktion betrieben hat bzw. musste, wurde durch die DDR-Regierung 70 Prozent vernichtet. Alte Kataloge und dergleichen befinden sich hauptsächlich in Privatbesitz. Wellner hat alle großen Offizierscasinos, Militärstützpunkte, Kriegsschiffe, den Reichstag und auch das Reichskanzleramt ausgestattet.

Ich hoffe, Ihnen etwas geholfen zu haben.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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