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Are these Shanghai Municipal Police?

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Are these Shanghai Municipal Police?

Postby Peter H on 06 Mar 2011 08:14

From: http://pickelhaubes.com/

From joerookery

Said to be around 1900.Note European officer."Shanghai Photograph Co" notation on photo.

Shanghai Municipal Police?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Municipal_Police

Can someone read the writing on their vests?
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Re: Are these Shanghai Municipal Police?

Postby Peter H on 06 Mar 2011 08:18

Much later 1940 Police photos here: http://bbs.news.163.com/bbs/mil/182634558.html

Look very paramilitary
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Re: Are these Shanghai Municipal Police?

Postby YC Chen on 06 Mar 2011 12:43

Interesting photos.
The words look like numbers, but can't see them clearly.
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Re: Are these Shanghai Municipal Police?

Postby cn110 on 13 Sep 2011 17:52

这不是警察。这是1896年江苏的“新军”,又叫“自强军”。1896年因德国教员生活不习惯,迁到上海吴淞训练。照片可能是这个时期拍的。三年后,德国教练合同期满回国。
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Re: Are these Shanghai Municipal Police?

Postby David Thompson on 13 Sep 2011 18:51

A babelfish machine translation of cn110's post:
This is not police. This was in 1896 Jiangsu “the new armed forces”, called “from the strengthening of the armed forces”. because in 1896 the German teachers lived are not familiar with, move to the Shanghai Woosung train. The picture possibly is this time shoots. Three years later, German coach term of contract has expired returning to homeland.
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Re: Are these Shanghai Municipal Police?

Postby Peter H on 14 Sep 2011 01:05

Thanks David....and cn of course. :)
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Re: Are these Shanghai Municipal Police?

Postby JerseyGary on 14 Sep 2011 20:36

I believe the officer in the top photo is Austro-Hungarian, not German. A-H supplied many weapons before 1914 and perhaps that is an advisor to the Chinese Army.
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