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Chinese Artillery?

Postby Gaijinaho on 02 Jun 2006 04:29

Hi Guys,
What were the Chinese using for artillery by 1942? I read in other posts on the board that they had some 88's, some Russian 122mm Howitzers and 76mm guns, but what about other weapons? Did they use other German artillery?
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Re: Chinese artillery

Postby asiaticus on 02 Jun 2006 11:08

They probably had guns from just aboot everywhere. I have accumulated this list:

HIH 62/37mm Twin-barrel Gun (Holland)

Vickers-Armstrong 60/44mm Twin-barrel Gun (UK)

Vickers-Armstrong 70/25mm Twin-barrel Gun (UK)
Skoda 70/37mm Twin-barrel Gun (Czechoslovakia)

Bofors 75/47mm Twin-barrel Gun (Sweden)
Bofors 81/37mm Twin-barrel Gun (Sweden)


Type 44 75mm Mountain Gun (China)
Schneider 75mm Mountain Gun (France)
Bofors 75mm Mountain Gun (Sweden)
Krupp 75mm Mountain Gun (Germany)

Bofors 75mm Field Gun (Sweden)
Type 38 75mm Field Gun (Japan)
75mm Field Gun (USA)
75mm Field Gun (Italy)
Schneider 75mm Field Gun (France)
Krupp 75mm Field Gun (Germany)

76mm Field Gun (Soviet)

Krupp 77mm Field Gun (Germany)

Type 41 77.7mm Field Gun (China)

18-pound Mrk. IV Field Gun (UK)
18-pound Mrk. V Field Gun (UK)


Chinese forces had purchased Schneider 105mm mle 19 Mountain Guns during the Civil Wars and by the KMT in the mid 1930s as it built up its military.

Type 14 10cm Cannon (China)
Type 14 10cm Howitzer (China)

Type 14 12cm Howitzer (China)
Type 38 12cm Howitzer (Japan)
12cm Howitzer (Soviet)

Type 14 15cm Howitzer (China)
Rheinmetall 15cm Howitzer (Germany)

They did have some heavier German feid artillery:

From a post on CDF by leonard
Posted: Jun 14 2005, 08:50 AM :

The Chinese used the German 10.5cm 1.FH18 and 15cm sFH 18.

There were a total of 44 sFH 18 (48 ordered, 44 received), equipped by the independent 10th and 14th artillery regiments. They played an important part in the victory of the 3rd Battle of Changsha.

The I.FH18 equipped the independent 10th and 13th artillery regiments. It is assumed there were about 48 pieces imported.

Source: Army Weapons during the War of Resistance: Field Artillery


They had a lot of home grown mortars too, to use in place of artillery that they could not get from outside after 1939.

83mm Infantry Mortar (China)
150mm Infantry Mortar (China)
240mm Infantry Mortar (China)

and some foreign ones:

Rheinmetall 81mm Infantry Mortar (Germany)
Brant 81mm Infantry Mortar (French)
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Chinese Artillery

Postby Gaijinaho on 03 Jun 2006 03:41

Thanks Asiaticus. I shudder to think of how they managed/tried to manage to provide ammunition and parts for that varied artillery park. Must have been a logistical nightmare.
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Use of the artillery by the Chinese.

Postby asiaticus on 03 Jun 2006 09:24

From what I have read it seems CKS hoarded the artillery park he had after the 1938 reorganization only allocatng them sparingly, such as the 1st Brigade at 1st Changsha, or a regiment with 5th Army in Burma in 1942-44. Nearly nearly all the oobs I am seeing have artillery assigned at the War area level, with the exception of Burma. Mostly it seems they were using mortars at the lower command levels.

They seem to have had Heavy Mortar Regiments of 12 mortars 150mm or 240mm I would guess.

In the Western Hupei Campaign (EarlyMay - Mid June, 1943) the Chinese had a 4th Heavy Mortar Regiment with the River Defense Force.

In 1944, 20th Army in Burma had the first big allocation of artillery I have seen:

- Artillery Command
-- 7th Artillery Regiment (24 guns)
-- 10th Artillery Regiment (12 guns)
-- 21st Artillery Regiment (22 guns )
-- 2nd Heavy Mortar Regiment (12 mortars)
-- 49th AAA Regiment (elements 24 guns)
-- 41st AAA Regiment (elements 5 guns)

I imagine it was because they actually had adequate supplies of ammo.
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Chinese Artillery

Postby Gaijinaho on 05 Jun 2006 04:13

The book "Eagle Dragon Alliance:America's Relations with China in World War II" ( Wesley Bagby,University of Delaware Press, 1992) states on P. 49 "General Ho Ying-Chin said that China was self-sufficient in the production of rifles, machine guns, antitank guns, and trench mortars, and even produced a few light artillery pieces."
The next paragraph says that the government was afraid of spending money, because increased production might raise inflation. Further, it was estimated (by Sun Fo) that China's wartime indusry produced far less than it could have, only about 10-20 per cent.
I don't know quite what to make of that. Was the economy that shattered?
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re: Use of the artillery by the Chinese.

Postby asiaticus on 08 Jun 2006 03:47

Maybe the government officialdom and suppliers were that corrupt.
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