Who are the three generals with Chiang Kai-shek?

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Who are the three generals with Chiang Kai-shek?

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Post by ttvon » 05 Apr 2009, 03:47

Who are the three generals with Chiang Kai-shik?
Two from China and One from USA.

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Post by ProvostGuard » 06 Apr 2009, 01:45

Do you have a date on the photo? If I had to guess, I'd say the American general is Caleb Haynes. I'm probably wrong however.

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Post by M&A » 06 Apr 2009, 17:39

the one on the left looks like Huang Renlin(黄仁霖) (retired from Lieutenant General). the photo below was at least 10 years after when he was in Taiwan. he also attended Cairo Conference in 1943 as Chiang's interpretor.

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Post by alexWong » 29 Jun 2009, 17:18

The one in the far right in peak cap should be General Sheng Zhen (1888-1978); former Corps Commander of 33 Corps in Peiping and then Commander of the 6th War Zone before appointed as Generalissimo Chiang 's personal Chief of Staff.
He spoke fluent English and has accompanied Chiang to India and also Cairo in 1943.He was the Commander of Chinese Forces in occupied Japan from 1946-49.
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General Zheng (far left) in Cairo with Generalissimo Chiang Kai Shek, 1943
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Post by ttvon » 20 Jul 2010, 13:43

Thank you very much!

Another question

Who is the lieutenant general?
The pic is taken in London,14 6 1943, UNITED NATIONS DAY PARADE.
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Post by alexWong » 28 Nov 2010, 07:18

ttvon wrote:Who are the three generals with Chiang Kai-shik?
Two from China and One from USA.

Thank you!

Source:http://www.sdzhan.com/index.php
This pic was taken on 11 Dec 1945 when Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek visited Peiping (Peking/Beijing)after The Japanese surrender. Gen Sun Lien-chun stood behind Gen Zheng .
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Post by alexWong » 29 Nov 2010, 16:22

ttvon wrote:Thank you very much!

Another question

Who is the lieutenant general?
The pic is taken in London,14 6 1943, UNITED NATIONS DAY PARADE.
He might be Lt Gen Kwei Yung-ching

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Post by ttvon » 30 Nov 2010, 06:59

alexWong wrote:
ttvon wrote:Thank you very much!

Another question

Who is the lieutenant general?
The pic is taken in London,14 6 1943, UNITED NATIONS DAY PARADE.
He might be Lt Gen Kwei Yung-ching
Hi,
Thank you very much.
But I found a clearer pic a few days ago.
He is only a lieutenant, sorry I have a mistake.

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Post by ttvon » 30 Nov 2010, 07:13

alexWong wrote:
ttvon wrote:Who are the three generals with Chiang Kai-shik?
Two from China and One from USA.

Thank you!

Source:http://www.sdzhan.com/index.php
This pic was taken on 11 Dec 1945 when Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek visited Peiping (Peking/Beijing)after The Japanese surrender. Gen Sun Lien-chun stood behind Gen Zheng .
Hi,
What are their names in Chinese(Sun Lien-chun etc.)?
There are two generals at least behind Gen Zheng. Who is Sun Lien-chun? and who is the other?
The source tells me that the pic is taken in 1943.Are you sure it is taken in 1945?

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Post by alexWong » 30 Nov 2010, 11:01

1943 was a very hard and difficult year for the China’s Resistance War against Japan, the Generalissimo would be more stern and less cheerful. More importantly they have not yet changed their German style uniform (with German Mountain Troop Cap and British Sam Browne Belt) to a more US style (with Peak Cap and new Cap badge and cloth and not Sam Browne Belt) as worn by General Zhang Zheng.

General Sun lien-chun 孫連仲is a famous general from Fan Yu-hsien 馮玉祥North-Western clique (西北軍). He was Commander of the 11th War Zone and Peiping was under his charge. You would not be able to see Maj General Hayes there too if it was 1943, nor Lt. General Huang Yen-lin (黃仁霖) who was the de facto Orderly of Madam Chiang

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Post by ttvon » 30 Nov 2010, 16:27

Hi,
Thank you very much.
I think 1 is 孫連仲.
黃仁霖 is the other man standing behind Chiang Kai-shek.

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Post by ttvon » 05 Jun 2012, 06:23

Hi,
But 2 does not look like Huang Renlin(黄仁霖). 2 is not the same man(Huang Renlin黄仁霖) in the first pic” Chiang Kai-shek 宋美玲,蒋介石.1.jpg”.

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Post by ttvon » 05 Jun 2012, 06:26

Hi,
These are my new findings. There are two other unknown Generals standing beside Chiang Kai-shek.
Who are they?
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