Chinese weapons since Opium War to the Era of Warlords?

[Mike Blake]

Thanks - unfortuately Google Translate makes a bit of a mess of the translation so I can't make much sense of it.

I have some articles on the Jingal which I can photocopy and send you, if you put your mails address in the email you send me.

[Peter H]

Gingals in use by the Red Army 1939!

From: bbs.voc.com cn

[Mike Blake]

Amazing! What a cracking photo - thanks - extending the use way beyond anything I would have thought possible!

[YC Chen]

This photo shows 8RA soldiers training with jingals. It was taken by Sha Fei(沙飞). It seems that CPC's standard armies in WW2(8RA and N4A) seldom used these obsolete weapons in battle, but almost every kind of obsolete weapons were used by partisans, militias and gangasters(my great-grandfather was a head of a gangaster band ) till early 1950s.
I have a lot of information about the use of these weapons in 20th century.

[Peter H]

From: http://photo.nanguow.com/20101227/8372.html

[Peter H]

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[YC Chen]

Here are some interesting photos that I have collected:
Small cannon from 1930s:

Obsolete iron cannons used by Feng Yuxiang's troops in the battle of Nankou, 1926:

A small cannon from 1920s or 30s:

[YC Chen]

A very interesting link: cannons and big swords which were used to fight gangasters in 1920-40s were still kept by some villagers in Shanxi Province:
http://www.sn.xinhuanet.com/2004-12/07/ ... 350916.htm

[peeved]

Chinese arty students at Krupp, Essen from http://www.ebay.de/itm/Kruppsche-Schies ... SwkZhWTeuN

Markus

[peeved]

Destroyed Russian design; 76 mm field gun M1900; reportedly in 1912 Tiger Hill, Nanjing and arty limber in Peking from http://www.ebay.de/itm/332084690770?_tr ... EBIDX%3AIT and http://www.ebay.de/itm/332091106053?_tr ... EBIDX%3AIT

Markus

[YC Chen]

This is not Tiger Hill, since you can see ramparts of the city wall in the photo and Tiger Hill is beyond the periphery of the city wall.

And the Putilov M1900 is another mystery... I have seen this photo before but did not realize that this is a M1900. I have never seen accounts of China buying or using this gun.

[trenchwarfare]

Haven't posted on here in years. Been collecting "Warlord" pistols for a while now. I have twelve. Seven are 1900 Browning types. One I didn't know existed, is a copy of a Japanese Type 26 revolver. The last one I bought is the oldest. A copy of a Belgian1842 percussion pistol. Captured at Tientsin, by a Marine. during the Boxer Rebellion. All Belgian Mark's are pretty good. However the mfg name, is stamped upside-down!

[jerryasher]

In regard #39 and #40.. The first five students sent to the Berlin Military Academy, included Duan Qirui who had graduated from thee Tianjin Military Academy. He then was invited to spend six more months with Krupp. Speculating, and at this point, without any foundation, this may be the same group and one of the individuals is Duan.