How Does a *Non-Anti-Semitic* Nazi Germany Deal With Food Shortages During World War II?
How Does a *Non-Anti-Semitic* Nazi Germany Deal With Food Shortages During World War II?
If I remember correctly, Michael Mills has previously argued here that a part of the reason as to why exactly the Nazis committed the Holocaust was because they feared the possibility of food shortages (as in World War I) and didn't want to "waste" food on European Jews.
Thus, my question here is this--how exactly would a non-anti-Semitic Nazi Germany deal with food shortages during World War II?
Indeed, any thoughts on this?
Also, as for how exactly Nazi Germany wouldn't be anti-Semitic in this scenario, well, let's have Adolf Hitler hit his head extremely hard on some object in the late 1910s or early 1920s and come to the accurate conclusion that not all Jews are bad/Communists and that many Jews are actually German patriots and/or pro-German and thus are potential allies of the Nazi Party.
Thus, my question here is this--how exactly would a non-anti-Semitic Nazi Germany deal with food shortages during World War II?
Indeed, any thoughts on this?
Also, as for how exactly Nazi Germany wouldn't be anti-Semitic in this scenario, well, let's have Adolf Hitler hit his head extremely hard on some object in the late 1910s or early 1920s and come to the accurate conclusion that not all Jews are bad/Communists and that many Jews are actually German patriots and/or pro-German and thus are potential allies of the Nazi Party.
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A non antisemitic Germany would likely had suffered no major food shortage in WWII.
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What about the British blockade of Nazi Germany, though?BDV wrote:A non antisemitic Germany would likely had suffered no major food shortage in WWII.
Re: How Does a *Non-Anti-Semitic* Nazi Germany Deal With Food Shortages During World War II?
Futurist wrote:What about the British blockade of Nazi Germany, though?
Would not amount to a hill of beans food wise.
Unless you consider a banana shortage relevant. Even citrics would be available from Sicilian, Spanish, or Turkish orchards.
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Re: How Does a *Non-Anti-Semitic* Nazi Germany Deal With Food Shortages During World War II?
Are we talking just Nazi Germany or all of occupied Europe?
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Out of curiosity--are you aware of the starvation that occurred in Germany as a result of the British blockade of Germany during World War I?BDV wrote:Futurist wrote:What about the British blockade of Nazi Germany, though?
Would not amount to a hill of beans food wise.
Unless you consider a banana shortage relevant. Even citrics would be available from Sicilian, Spanish, or Turkish orchards.
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We are talking about all of Nazi-occupied (as opposed to Italian-occupied, Hungarian-occupied, et cetera) Europe here.OpanaPointer wrote:Are we talking just Nazi Germany or all of occupied Europe?
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Thanks. I don't see things changing that much. The RN wasn't going to allow aid to Germany to cross the lines they had set. The US wouldn't have fought the RN to get food into Europe, the presumption that it would have benefited the Axis was too strongly held in the States.
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There were some other, somewhat significant, differences.Futurist wrote: Out of curiosity--are you aware of the starvation that occurred in Germany as a result of the British blockade of Germany during World War I?
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Care to please elaborate on this?BDV wrote:There were some other, somewhat significant, differences.Futurist wrote: Out of curiosity--are you aware of the starvation that occurred in Germany as a result of the British blockade of Germany during World War I?
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"Out of curiosity"Futurist wrote:Care to please elaborate on this?BDV wrote:There were some other, somewhat significant, differences.Futurist wrote: Out of curiosity--are you aware of the starvation that occurred in Germany as a result of the British blockade of Germany during World War I?
"care to elaborate"
I think we got on the wrong foot, here.
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OK; this certainly makes sense.OpanaPointer wrote:Thanks. I don't see things changing that much. The RN wasn't going to allow aid to Germany to cross the lines they had set. The US wouldn't have fought the RN to get food into Europe, the presumption that it would have benefited the Axis was too strongly held in the States.
However, how exactly do the Nazis deal with any food shortages that might develop as a result of the Nazis having 6 million additional Jewish mouths to feed in this scenario?
Indeed, any thoughts on this?
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Frankly, I'm simply wondering as to exactly which differences you are talking about here.BDV wrote:"Out of curiosity"Futurist wrote:Care to please elaborate on this?BDV wrote:There were some other, somewhat significant, differences.Futurist wrote: Out of curiosity--are you aware of the starvation that occurred in Germany as a result of the British blockade of Germany during World War I?
"care to elaborate"
I think we got on the wrong foot, here.
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Re: How Does a *Non-Anti-Semitic* Nazi Germany Deal With Food Shortages During World War II?
They wouldn't bother. See the starvation in Greece for an example.Futurist wrote:OK; this certainly makes sense.OpanaPointer wrote:Thanks. I don't see things changing that much. The RN wasn't going to allow aid to Germany to cross the lines they had set. The US wouldn't have fought the RN to get food into Europe, the presumption that it would have benefited the Axis was too strongly held in the States.
However, how exactly do the Nazis deal with any food shortages that might develop as a result of the Nazis having 6 million additional Jewish mouths to feed in this scenario?
Indeed, any thoughts on this?
Re: How Does a *Non-Anti-Semitic* Nazi Germany Deal With Food Shortages During World War II?
Weren't the Nazis afraid that large-scale starvation in Germany during World War II could cause the German people to rebel against their government (as was previously the case in 1918), though?OpanaPointer wrote:They wouldn't bother. See the starvation in Greece for an example.Futurist wrote:OK; this certainly makes sense.OpanaPointer wrote:Thanks. I don't see things changing that much. The RN wasn't going to allow aid to Germany to cross the lines they had set. The US wouldn't have fought the RN to get food into Europe, the presumption that it would have benefited the Axis was too strongly held in the States.
However, how exactly do the Nazis deal with any food shortages that might develop as a result of the Nazis having 6 million additional Jewish mouths to feed in this scenario?
Indeed, any thoughts on this?