Franco German war in 1905

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PrinceLiberty
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Franco German war

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Post by PrinceLiberty » 23 Aug 2004, 05:57

Also, Italy probably fights on Germnay's side. And they
could be given Provence, Dauphin and Corisca.
Tunisa prehaps too. It would be Germany's interest
to weaken France as much as possible so the more
"rewards" it can hand out at France's expense the
better. So prehaps give land to Spain as well.

Germany would probably also take a number of France's
colonies as well

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Post by Miha Grcar » 31 Oct 2004, 14:06

It depends how ruthless the Germans wanted to be. A sudden attack (not sure when the Schlieffen Plan was actually drawn up) would probably defeat the French before the British could do anything about it.
Schlieffen submited his plan in december 1905.

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Post by uglystkvictm » 03 Nov 2004, 19:07

What Territory would the Germans have annexed in the case of victory.

A given, Morocco would have been under German Control since it would have been the reason the war started. I also believe that the French Congo would have been handed over to Germany.

If the Germans took action against Belgium, which I believe they would have, Germany would annex all of Belgium south of the Meuse River and Luxembourg all together. Belgium would have become a German puppet and the Belgian Congo comes under German control.

Also I've read and its my understanding that all the Germans intended to annex from France itself was enough territory to include Nancey into the Riech. This I have no idea why or if its even feasible.

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Re: Franco German war in 1905

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Post by Futurist » 21 Aug 2016, 00:29

maltesefalcon wrote:Germany knew that a war with France was inevitable. What if the Germans had attacked France in a pre-emptive strike in 1905?
In short: It would almost certainly be an extremely lopsided German victory. Indeed, even if logistics causes the initial German attack on France to fail, it would only be a matter of time before Germany will defeat and overwhelm France.

However, an important question here is this: After France is defeated, is Germany going to attack France's ally Russia? Or would Germany be content with merely defeating France?
Britain was still smarting from their humiliations in the Boer War, so the public would not be receptive to a war on the continent.
Are you sure about that, though?
Russia had her hands full with Japan, and would eventually have a mini-revolution over the loss of that war. Any aggressive moves to aid France could attract unwanted agressive moves by Austria Hungary and Turkey.
Completely agreed.
America was busy consolidating her new colonies won in the Spanish American War. Besides they were still somewhat isolationist in principle.
Completely agreed.
If the Germans crossed into France as they did in 1870, and decisively defeated them, what would be their best move after that?
Invading Russia, perhaps?
What would happen in Europe over the next decade?
In short: A period (possibly a long period) of German domination.

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Re: Franco German war in 1905

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Post by Tim Smith » 05 Sep 2016, 16:58

Perhaps a more probable scenario in 1905 is a German declaration of war on Russia, during the Russo-Japanese War. This might negate British intervention, because Britain was allied to Japan in 1905. Germany would invade Russian territory, perhaps with the idea of separating Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland from the Russian Empire. Meanwhile Germany would stand on the defensive against France.

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