by ChristopherPerrien on 11 Jun 2012 20:57 glenn239 wrote:was a third strike ever planned or drawn up in the initial Pearl Harbor attack plans?
No. Combined Fleet's management of the operation was very hands off. Nagumo's command had free reign across the board, incudling all aspects of aerial tactics. The directive was pretty straightforward, and stated the minimal aims and target list for the first attack.
Do you anything about the Japanese? And their concept of "consensus"?
This is why Yamamoto’s HQ was stunned by Nagumo’s signal that he was withdrawing.
Real/orginal sources and attached quotes, and please and not just some bs from the unknown editor's of Prange's notes.
You need to go past them/Prange/Genda/Fuchida to prove this.
Earlier I posted Nagumo's operational order on follow-up attacks. This order will have fooled Yamamoto completely. Yamamoto will have read it and thought that Nagumo would act as per Nagumo's own operational directive as to the conditions upon which he would hit Oahu (and the ships near it) again and again.[/quotes]
Again, provide some proof of nagumo's duplicity for this claim, again You need to go past them/Prange/Genda/Fuchida to prove this.
[quote}Genda drafted 4 plans for follow-up attacks en route to Hawaii, Nagumo rejected them all.
So what?
Note in the light of this incident Yamamoto’s precipitous decision to relieve Nagumo at Midway. After Pearl Harbor, Yamamoto was gunning for Nagumo, but Yamamoto had no official say in such matters.
DIDN'T FRIGGIN HAPPEN, If so, please provide some info with sources to back them up, here, And I suggest not bringing up those two editor 's of Prange's notes, as you have done a fair job of proving they have as about an unbias view about Pacific history as you do.
I'll dispense with crucifying Prange directly, since he is already dead
, and it seems obviously that both you and the editor's of prange's notes are severely abusing his notes, out of context. And now you are just spewing out unsourced non-primary claims, please back them up.And I see no need to discuss Prange himself or the original biasness he had, being Macathur's historian , that would be a major topic in itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Midway
You tell me.
wiki? for these claims? And, you not even talking of Midway in your above post, rather of the Pearl Harbor Raid,
The only thing that Midway proves is that obviously the Japanese high command AND ADM. YAMAMOTO thought differently of Nagumo's competency after Pearl Harbor in commanding their most powerful fleet. In the absence of anything other than the actions of the actual Commanding officers of the IJN involved, I see no need to pursue any dubious speculations/gripes/biasses by lesser individuals
