U 617 Emblem in better resolution demand

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U 617 Emblem in better resolution demand

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Post by Jan7 » 16 Aug 2010, 12:47

@Axel N U-617 Emblem in better resolution demand

As You possibly known, I investigate the case of U 617, as I explained in other thread of this Forum. One matter that intrigued me, more years ago, are the image of maling/wappen of this U-Boot. Books, webs, contact by email with numerous webmasters, nothing, nothing….

However, in this documentary film 1943-08-11 - Die Deutsche Wochenschau Nr. 675 08:32 > 09:15 appears the maling/wappen of U-617.
I realize a capture of my display and obtain this image.
U-617 Emblema.jpg
Emblem of U 617
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My question are both simple and complex:
Do anyone of this Forum held in his own archives a better resolution image of this emblem? Anyone know it means? Are the familiar crest of commander Brandi?
:idea: I autoself interrogated about this image more times.

If You remind seeing images of this U-boot, don’t appears any image of this emblem.

Any commentaries are wellcome in advance.



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Post by tigre » 16 Aug 2010, 16:39

Hello Jan :D; nope what it means yet but...........most of the U-boats carried the shield of a German city which sponsored them....so it could be this case. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).


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Post by Jan7 » 16 Aug 2010, 19:56

tigre wrote:Hello Jan :D; nope what it means yet but...........most of the U-boats carried the shield of a German city which sponsored them....so it could be this case. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
Interesting appointing, Raúl...... But what? And in this list And in this list, don't appears :cry:





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Post by Axel N » 21 Aug 2010, 00:07

Hi Jan,

the shield carried at the front of the C/T of U 617 proves to be a hard nut. It is not present on earlier pics of U 617. With the pic clearly taken on entering Toulon on 20 July 1943 on its penultimate patrol, the shield was very probably representing the city emblem of a town that has "adopted" the boat at some time during spring 1943. It was not unusual that this took place after commissioning, especially when the boat became successful. Incidently, not even the engineer officer (now passed away) remembered it. Please keep in mind that it could well be a city in the former eastern provinces now no longer a part of Germany.

Anyway, I shall continue to work on this because I like stuff like this!

Cheers

Axel!

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Post by Jan7 » 21 Aug 2010, 01:06

Hi Axel, thank you for your kind words and for your information
If you look inter my posts, you will find a detailing our research on the U 617 -19 Jan 2008-.
Thanks for your interest. Awaiting your notices.
By the way, any member of the crew told you about their stance in the POW Camp in Rimini (Enklave)?

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Post by Jan7 » 04 Oct 2011, 18:06

Axel N in 20 Aug 2010 wrote:Hi Jan,

the shield carried at the front of the C/T of U 617 proves to be a hard nut. It is not present on earlier pics of U 617. With the pic clearly taken on entering Toulon on 20 July 1943 on its penultimate patrol, the shield was very probably representing the city emblem of a town that has "adopted" the boat at some time during spring 1943. It was not unusual that this took place after commissioning, especially when the boat became successful. Incidently, not even the engineer officer (now passed away) remembered it. Please keep in mind that it could well be a city in the former eastern provinces now no longer a part of Germany.
Anyway, I shall continue to work on this because I like stuff like this!

Cheers
Axel!
¡Hi, Axel!

Excuse me if I'm an inoportune, but I'm only very curious.... :) I wish know if your efforts and investigations are positive in this matter, as you can see by yourself, your last communication are.....14 months later!.

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Post by Polar bear » 06 Oct 2011, 08:09

hi,Jan,
Axel N wrote:Please keep in mind that it could well be a city in the former eastern provinces now no longer a part of Germany.
Just reading this for the first time.
Additional thought: it might be the crest of a town in Austria or in the former "Sudetenland", too

greetings,the pb
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Post by Jan7 » 07 Oct 2011, 16:17

Polar bear wrote:hi,Jan,
Axel N wrote:Please keep in mind that it could well be a city in the former eastern provinces now no longer a part of Germany.
Just reading this for the first time.
Additional thought: it might be the crest of a town in Austria or in the former "Sudetenland", too
greetings,the pb
Thanks for your tip, Polar Bear!.....
I remind that our shipmate F Almeida indicated me that precisely an Officier of this U-Boot, Von Arco, II WO, born in the Sudetenland....I will follow this key.

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Post by Jan7 » 25 Sep 2013, 17:58

Axel N wrote:Hi Jan,

the shield carried at the front of the C/T of U 617 proves to be a hard nut. It is not present on earlier pics of U 617. With the pic clearly taken on entering Toulon on 20 July 1943 on its penultimate patrol, the shield was very probably representing the city emblem of a town that has "adopted" the boat at some time during spring 1943. It was not unusual that this took place after commissioning, especially when the boat became successful. Incidently, not even the engineer officer (now passed away) remembered it. Please keep in mind that it could well be a city in the former eastern provinces now no longer a part of Germany.

Anyway, I shall continue to work on this because I like stuff like this!

Cheers
Axel!
¡Hi to all!
I locate this emblem also in:
http://www.u617.de/brandi/
but no new information..... :cry:

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Post by Jan7 » 10 Aug 2016, 11:58


Just in time 0:52 appears this emblem/Wappen of U 617
Do you knows a better image of this piece?

Thanks in advance.
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