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michael mills wrote:I am not sure what the map posted by wm is meant to demonstrate. It does not seem to represent any political situation that ever existed.
It would after the destruction of the USSR by the German-Polish Alliance. It can't be denied that Poland would have been a huge barrier between the German West and East territories, a barrier which would have to be removed for military, economic and political reasons.
michael mills wrote:The result was the German-Polish Declaration on Non-Aggression of 28 January 1934, and subsequent tentative moves toward an alliance based on common hostility toward the Soviet Union.
Every reputable history of German-Polish relations in the inter-war period affirms that when Hitler came to power in 1933, he reversed the policy of his predecessors,
Hitler in fact favoured a strong Poland that would form a bulwark against Soviet expansion, and eventually become Germany's ally in a crusade to overthrow Bolshevism.
There is no reason to doubt that Hitler was entirely genuine in his opposition to Bolshevism, and in his desire to form alliances with states that were equally opposed to the Soviet Union, such as Poland, Hungary and Romania.
michael mills wrote:A paranoid concept.
To that end, it offered to abandon all claims to former German territory, except for Danzig
What you are ignoring here is that Hitler's attitude toward Poland was entirely determined by Poland's attitude toward Germany.
Hitler was even supportive of Polish eastward expansion, proposing the division of Ukraine between Poland and Germany, with Poland taking the territory west of the Dnepr.
On the other hand, if Poland turned against Germany and joined its enemies in an encirclement
Furthermore, Hitler took the Polish rejection of his overtures of friendship as a personal affront, and turned his previously positive attitude toward the Polish people into a negative one.After a meeting with Hitler in August 1939, the High Commissioner for Danzig, Carl Burckhardt, commented on Hitler's "feminine" personality; well, Hell hath no fury like a Hitler scorned.
[/quote]Again as is clearly shown by the documentation, it was Stalin who, in the negotiations leading to the Soviet-German Borders and Friendship Treaty of 28 September 1939, vetoed the continued existence of any form of Polish political entity, on the grounds that any such entity would inevitably become a source of contention between German and the Soviet Union. Stalin demanded a common German-Soviet border, with no Polish buffer state separating them.
michael mills wrote:It is entirely possible that Germany, after overthrowing the Soviet Union and conquering territory in the East, would have seen Poland as a barrier, and would have sought to eliminate it for that reason.
Not to mention Mein Kampf itself in which he praises conquering of non-German territories in Poland.
How about dealing with some of the rest?
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