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Help Id. coastal gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Oct 2008, 11:49

Hi all,

Can anyone identify this french coastal gun?

Photo from ebay

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Post by jopaerya » 22 Oct 2008, 12:11

Hello

I think the gun is a 240 mm Mle 1884 a Pointe de L'Eve a St Nazaire

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Post by Sturm78 » 04 Nov 2008, 16:03

Hi,

Here I have another photo of heavy coast artillery unidentified. According to my information it was a French coastal battery at Dakar. Can someone help me to identify the model of gun?

Thanks in advance


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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Nov 2008, 21:47

Hi all,

a 194mm Mle 1870/93 without shield perhaps??

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Post by Sturm78 » 06 Nov 2008, 20:59

Hi Nuyt,

According to this forum, is a 240mm battery in four single mounts at Mamelles, Dakar.
But, what model??? 240 mm/50 Models 1902 and 1906 ex-battleship Danton, perhaps???

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_94-50_m1902.htm

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Post by Manuferey » 07 Nov 2008, 00:30

Here is a long and interesting post on the 240 mm Mle 1893-96 M Colonies, including batteries in Dakar, by a top French specialist on artillery. It's in French so you may need to brush up your French lessons:

http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/les-b ... -t4452.htm

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Post by Sturm78 » 07 Nov 2008, 13:25

Thank you very much for your link, Manuferey.
:D

See also http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/les-b ... -t4478.htm

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Apr 2009, 11:46

Hi all,

I found this image on Ebay. Can someone help me to identify the model of old french coastal gun?

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Post by Manuferey » 27 Apr 2009, 23:43

Sturm,

I've tried to identify your gun from pictures of old French coastal guns in this site
http://www.fortiff.be/iff/index.php?p=3150
under canons de 19 c and up but no luck. :?

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Post by ludvig » 17 Jun 2009, 16:10

Hi Sturm78 ,
Thank you for a sharp picture of :
240 mm G Mle 1876 sur affut Mle 1911
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Post by Sturm78 » 08 Apr 2010, 12:28

Hi all,

I found these two images on Ebay. According to photocaption the gun is a french coastal gun in Cherbourg.
Can anybody identify the model??

It seems that the crew is firing the gun with the barrel damaged!! 8O

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Post by kstdk » 08 Apr 2010, 13:06

Hello

Nothing on th ID of the gun.

It might be a demolition charge to destroy the gun?

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Post by Manuferey » 09 Apr 2010, 00:26

I think it's a 164,7 mm Mle 1887 coastal gun in a hastily prepared position.

The handwritten caption on the back of the picture on ebay contains the following words "Küstenbatterie außer gefecht“. I found a similar expression in my German-French dictionary: "eine batterie außer Gefecht setzen". It translates into "to put a battery out of fighting condition". This would confirm the demolition charge.

The explosion would have blasted a hole on the side of the barrel (see the flames coming out). The hole can then be seen on the other photo.

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Post by Sturm78 » 09 Apr 2010, 11:51

Thank you very much for your help, Kurt and Emmanuel. :D

But the question is, Why to destroy with this method a captured gun? 8O
On the other hand I have not found information or photos of 164mm Mle 1887 coastal gun

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