Id french AA guns

[chiangshan]

Can someone identify if this is French AA or not, thank you.

[AVV]

Hello!

Can someone identify if this is French AA or not, thank you.

IMHO, it looks like aviation cannon dismantled from plane for ground use.

Best regards, Aleks

[karlik]

Hello!

Can someone identify if this is French AA or not, thank you.

IMHO, it looks like aviation cannon dismantled from plane for ground use.

Best regards, Aleks

Not Hispano-Suisa HS 404?

[AVV]

Not Hispano-Suisa HS 404?

I think that the gun under question does not look like HS 404
http://nueveg.files.wordpress.com/2011/ ... =400&h=114
I would say this could be ShVAK
http://airbase.ru/alpha/rus/sh/shvak/20 ... /shvak.jpg

Best regards, Aleks

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Another image of a 75mm Mle1917-34 gun:

Image from Ebay
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[Sturm78]

Hi all,

75mm Mle 32 french or 75mm Mle 1936 belgian AA guns ??

Images from Ebay
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[Sturm78]

Nobody for my last images??

Here, a new image for Id.

Image from Ebay
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[Manuferey]

Nobody for my last images??

Sturm78,

The wheels on the two previous pictures would indicate the Belgian version (75 mm ABS/FRC mle 36).

Regarding your latest picture, I think it shows the rear of a 75 mm CA Mle 13/34 "autocanon". Also note the French helmet different than the "Adrian" type of the infantry for example.

Emmanuel

[Sturm78]

Thank you very much, Emmanuel.

So the wheels are the way to differentiate between 75mm Mle 32 french and 75mm Mle 1936 belgian AA guns.

Regards Sturm78

[Manuferey]

Thank you very much, Emmanuel.

So the wheels are the way to differentiate between 75mm Mle 32 french and 75mm Mle 1936 belgian AA guns.

Regards Sturm78

This is my assumption. But I haven't found any confirmation from French or Belgium official documents yet. I have seen a picture of a gun with the « French » tires marked « Troyes – Frankreich – Juli 1940 » in the back which would then define the French type.

Emmanuel

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Another image from Ebay: A 75mm Mle 1932 french AA gun

Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Does somebody have any information about this gun?

I think 75mm Schneider-Creusot Mle1938 AA gun.
It seems that this gun was not adopted by French Army. Why?
Export only: Switzerland and perhaps Holland

See also: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6&start=15 and http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ilit=swiss

Sturm78

[Manuferey]

The gun was manufactured under license in Switzerland by K +W ("Constructions fédérales" i.e. a government-owned company) and designated 7,5 cm Flab Kanone 38 L 49 by the Swiss Army.

For technical information, you can check at:
www.fortiff.be under "Association du Fort de Litroz"> Armes suisses > DCA

I have seen two different types of muzzle brakes on this gun in service in the Swiss Army.

A possible reason why the 75 mm Mle 38 Schneider was not accepted by the French Army is that there were already several types of AA guns in service and introduced only a few years earlier (1930, 1932, 1934 …) including through modernization programs. It was probably easier and faster to increase production of the slightly older AA guns than introducing a new type of gun which would have also created additional logistical and training headaches in 1939 et 1940. But that’s my theory.

Also, historically, Schneider had to compete with the French government-owned “ateliers” (e.g. Ateliers de Puteaux/APX, Ateliers de Bourges, ...) for some categories of guns, so there could have been some political reasons as well in the French decision not to procure the Mle 38.

We can draw a parallel with the 47 mm Mle 1936 Schneider AT gun sold only to Rumania and not accepted by the French Army which selected the 47 mm Mle 1937 despite its lengthy development process.

Emmanuel

[Sturm78]

Thank you for your reply, Emmanuel.

Greetings Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

A nice image of a 105mm CA Mle 1917 or Mle 1917/34 PF french AA gun:

Image from Ebay
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