Help to Id. US artillery

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Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 29 Oct 2009, 17:37

Hi all,

I need your help to identify this US coastal gun.
Sorry for the small size of image

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Post by Hoist40 » 30 Oct 2009, 18:05

It is the US Navy 5inch/51 cal used by Marine Corps Coast Defense Battalions.

6 of these guns were used by the defenders of Wake island who managed to sink one Japanese Destroyer and damage several other ships.

The Marine Defense Battalions were equipped with either six ex Navy 5inch /51cal or six ex Navy 7inch/45 cal or eight ex Army 155mm guns


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Post by Sturm78 » 31 Oct 2009, 19:17

Thank you, Hoist40. Have you others images of these guns?

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Post by Hoist40 » 31 Oct 2009, 22:03

Here is the gun in navy service

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_5-51_mk7.htm


Here is a picture page from the same source

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_5-51_mk7_pics.htm


Here is a link to a page which has your original photo saying that it is a gun from the 1st Marine Defense Battalion, Battery A with Private Edward F. Eaton standing in front of the gun

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/USMC-C-Wake/

Here is a US Navy manual which has drawings and specifications of all US Navy guns and gun mounts of WW2

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/guncat/index.htm

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Post by oneshooter » 01 Nov 2009, 05:09

I believe that there are 4 of these on the USS Texas(BB35). They are on the weather deck both port and starboard. They are the ony ones remaining of the 12 or so that were on the ship as built in 1914.

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 Nov 2009, 12:56

Thank you very much, Hoist40. :D

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Post by Sturm78 » 08 Jan 2010, 13:02

Hi all,

Can anybody help me to Id. this US gun?

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Post by binder001 » 08 Jan 2010, 15:20

The gun is the 155mm gun (french GPF, US M1917 or M1918 series) mounted on an early tracked chassis. I don't have my books right here to give the full designation, but this was one of the earliest US efforts to put a heavy gun on a tracked chassis.

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Post by The Edge » 09 Jan 2010, 00:35

155mm Gun Motor Carriage Mark II
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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Jan 2010, 17:16

Thank you very much, The Edge and Binder001!! :D

Greetings, Sturm78

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Post by Sturm78 » 24 Jan 2010, 14:26

Hi all,

I need help to Identify these US Army coastal mortars. These weapons are 12in (305mm) mortars but I can not identify with certainty the exact model: 12in M1890 on carriage mortar M1896, 12in M1908 on carriage mortar M1908 or 12in M1912 on carriage mortar M1896 ?? :? It is difficult to differentiate.

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Post by Hoist40 » 24 Jan 2010, 19:06

Its either the M1896 or M1896MI mortar. The MI was an upgrade of the earlier model, no new units were build but I don’t know what the upgrade involved so I can’t tell the difference

However I am sure its not the M1912 mortar on the M1896MII carriage since that mortar was longer, 15 cal instead of 10 cal

And its also not the M1908 carriage since that has its recoil system with four units spaced at the corners of the barrel

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Post by Sturm78 » 25 Jan 2010, 14:08

Hi Hoist40

I guess you refer to M1896 mount. I think the barrel is M1890, no?

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Post by Hoist40 » 25 Jan 2010, 16:04

Yes the mortar itself is M1890, the carriage is either M1896 or M1896MI. Sorry for the confusion.

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Post by Sturm78 » 25 Jan 2010, 21:06

Thank you very much, Hoist40.

I also need help to correctly identify these other coastal guns:

Image 1: I suppose it is a 6in (152mm) cannon but I do not know the model
Image 2: 14in (356mm) M1907 on carriage disappearing M1907 or M1910 on carriage disappearing M1907MI :?
Image 3: I think 12in (305mm) M1895 on carriage disappearing M1897

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Thanks in advance. Regards Sturm78
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14in M1907 or M1910 US Army coastal gun firing in Aberdeen, 1939--.JPG
14in M1907 or M1910 US Army coastal gun firing in Aberdeen, 1939--.JPG (52.81 KiB) Viewed 19624 times
US Army coast gun of Fort Warren, Boston 1941.JPG
US Army coast gun of Fort Warren, Boston 1941.JPG (67.06 KiB) Viewed 19624 times

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