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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 11 Oct 2012, 16:54

This is the sucessor to the WW II 90 mm M1. It is the 90 MM M2. It used a 4 wheel carriage from which it could be fired in an emergency as opposed to the 2 wheel bogie of the M1.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 12 Oct 2012, 00:20

I should have made it clear that the 90 mm M2 was standardized in 1943 and was a ww II weapon but does not to have been photographed vere much. Between 1943 and 1944 575 M 2s were completed.
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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 12 Oct 2012, 23:08

Thank you very much for your help, ROLAND1369.

Indeed, I never have seen any wartime image of the 90mm M2 gun. :(

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 13 Oct 2012, 15:57

I made a mistake and read the wrong production column. The figures I quoted were for the remote firing system for the 90 mm guns. While the 90 MM aa gun M2 was adopted in 1943 it was not put into production untill April 1944. Production seems to have been a low rate as only 121 were produced in 1944 and only 74 were produced in 1945, the latter no doubt reflecting the end of the war. All production seems to have been made by converting the earlier versions of the 90 MM m1 aa gun. The combination of a late production and low inventory probibly explains a low deployment as the need for AA protection had declined by that stage of the war and there was probibly a reluctance to reequip and retrain AA unit on a new piece of equipment.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by Hoist40 » 14 Oct 2012, 02:41

The same 90mm gun barrel was used on the M36 tank destroyer and M26 Tank. So in 1944 and 1945 they probably had higher priority then the AA mount.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by binder001 » 15 Oct 2012, 18:04

FYI - the most common place to see the 90mm M2 was in mid-1050's Warner Bros war movies - usually shown as a "german 88". I grew up seeing the 90mm on M2 mount and it was learning experience to later find out that the "true" WW2 mount was the M1 mount.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 02 Jan 2013, 19:08

Hi all,

Can anyone identify this US coastal gun?
According to photocaption 10in gun in Texas. Model ??

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by jdoe » 02 Jan 2013, 19:52

Looks like a 10" M1892, a so-called "disappearing gun".

Here are some other reference photos;

Fort Casey, WA
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ng_gun.jpg

Fort Winfield Scott, CA
http://www.nps.gov/goga/historyculture/ ... illery.jpg

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 02 Jan 2013, 20:55

jdoe wrote
Looks like a 10" M1892, a so-called "disappearing gun".
Ummmhhh. :? :?

According to Ian V. Hogg book about British and American WWII artillery there were 10in M1888 on M1893 carriage, 10in M1888 on M1894 carriage, 10in M1895 on M1896 carriage and 10in M1900 on M1901 carriage.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Jan 2013, 01:04

It is a Gun M1895 on Carriage Dissappearing LF m1896. If the location of Galveston TX is correct it is Battery Wade Hampton on Fort Crockett.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by Takao » 03 Jan 2013, 01:16

There were two Forts protecting Galveston that had 10inch disappearing guns: Fort San Jacinto-Battery Julius Heileman and Fort Crockett-Battery Wade Hampton. Battery Heileman had the M1888MI on a M1896 carriage and Battery Hampton had the M1895 on a M1896 carriage.

Period photographs of the two batteries are hard to find on the 'net, and the two batteries have not been preserved & are long gone. However I found this photo that claims to be of Battery Hampton
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found here: http://galvestonartist.wordpress.com/2012/07/

The fortwiki pages for each battery
http://fortwiki.com/Battery_Heileman
http://fortwiki.com/Battery_Hampton

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Jan 2013, 02:49

This second photo is neither fort or battery at Galveston. The terrain is perfectly flat and there is no hill/bluf as shown in the photo. Battery Julius Heileman was armed with Two dissimular carriages. The left hand gun closest to the channel was a 10 inch m1888 MI mounted on a Carriage Dissappearing ARF m1896 which was capable of 360 degree fire and thus could not only cover the entire entrance channel but fire back into the harbor. The right hand gun was an m1888 mounted on a Carriage Dissappearing LF m1896 which only traversed 170 degrees. The Picture could be the right hand gun of battery heileman howeverits location was set back from the water while Hampton was on the seawall. The picture shows no land in front of the battery and ths was the reason I believe it to be Hampton.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Jan 2013, 03:33

Forgot to add that picture no 2 purporting to be Hampton is not a 10 inch but is a 12 inch Gun M1895 on Carriage Dissappearing LF M1897. From the shape of the Hill/Bluff in the background most likely Battery Mendell, Fort Barry, Harbor defenses of San Francisco.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Jan 2013, 18:16

I have compared the 1st picture with the Battery plans of heilman and Hampton and the picture cannot be heilman due to the shape of the front parapet and stairs to the working platform. Thus if the pic was taken at Galveston it must be Battery Hampton.

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Re: Help to Id. US artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Jan 2013, 13:05

Thank you very much for your help, ROLAND1369. :wink:

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