MacArthur -why the hate?

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Re: MacArthur -why the hate?

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Post by Nickdfresh » 28 Jan 2016, 21:21

rcocean wrote:
And Sheehan was wrong.
Maybe. Maybe not. I haven't checked yet, his sources were pretty well indexed extensively at the end of the book. I'll look tonight.
Maybe because, Sheenan didn't know what he was talking about when he made a random comment about the Korean War
Or maybe that's just your personal speculation because you don't like what he is saying?
- in a book about Vietnam.

So why you keep quoting him is puzzling.
I actually haven't "quoted him", just recollected what I read a while back. It seems as though you've never actually read it? Sheehan probably spends about half the book on Vietnam, no more than two-thirds. The rest was a biography of Vann - a complex individual filled with duality. There is also much in the book about the social strata of the South during the Great Depression, WWII, and quite a bit regarding Vann's seemingly stellar pre-Vietnam career, which he derailed with his obsessive womanizing. I also took a lot of what Sheehan said to be an opinion he devolved from years of interacting with military officers and government personnel over decades.

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Re: MacArthur -why the hate?

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Post by clifford13 » 13 Jun 2016, 07:43

Amusing, this.
Same with Halsey. Some folks don't look at conflicting concerns, a fleet grown too big, and a supply line needing defending. They just bash away, without considering the facts.


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Post by OpanaPointer » 13 Jun 2016, 12:55

clifford13 wrote:Amusing, this.
Same with Halsey. Some folks don't look at conflicting concerns, a fleet grown too big, and a supply line needing defending. They just bash away, without considering the facts.
I started reading on WWII in 1964. I have considered the facts.
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Post by clifford13 » 13 Jun 2016, 14:51

Started seriously looking at this in 68, when I could read seriously....been a life long [pretty much] student of this , with my Dad and older brother finding all the documentaries they could to show me on tv as well...been 40 + years of digging..

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Post by OpanaPointer » 13 Jun 2016, 15:27

But you dis other people's background on this topic? Without knowing what they've read?
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OpanaPointer wrote:But you dis other people's background on this topic? Without knowing what they've read?
Not just what many have read and studied all their lives, but also what many have wrote, as we have several of the most recognized published authors, authorities and researchers on this site and more using alternate names.

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I've thought you can tell as much or more about someones personality reading the posts as about he subject of the thread.

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Post by genstab » 23 Jun 2016, 18:18

Whatever your views on the man, he knew his strategy. He said that the domino theory didn't apply to Vietnam, and he was right. Nobody listened. We ruined this nation's economy to the present day and split it down the middle politically by sending troops in there, losing 50,000 American lives not to mention the millions of civilians killed. Matthew Ridgway was against it also.

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A stopped clock is right twice a day.
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Post by ChristopherPerrien » 29 Jun 2016, 17:45

Yea, Ridgeway, was a very dim bulb. Kind of an "appropriate" replacement for Mac in Korea, while a "peace" was hacked out, by representatives of higher powers (Mao, US/UN, Stalin).

Sidenote; Vietnam was just a place for some defense contractors to make a lot of money and some new weapons to get tested. It was also the last piece of ground where ownership was finally settled from WWII, which was the start of the US Japanese conflict, as Japan seized that Vichy French territory , thus inviting FDR's fuel embargo causing Pearl Harbor.

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Post by Delta Tank » 30 Jun 2016, 18:37

ChristopherPerrien wrote:Yea, Ridgeway, was a very dim bulb. Kind of an "appropriate" replacement for Mac in Korea, while a "peace" was hacked out, by representatives of higher powers (Mao, US/UN, Stalin).

Sidenote; Vietnam was just a place for some defense contractors to make a lot of money and some new weapons to get tested. It was also the last piece of ground where ownership was finally settled from WWII, which was the start of the US Japanese conflict, as Japan seized that Vichy French territory , thus inviting FDR's fuel embargo causing Pearl Harbor.
So says SP4 Perrien! CP were you a Command Specialist 4th Class or just a Speedy 4?

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Delta Tank wrote:
ChristopherPerrien wrote:Yea, Ridgeway, was a very dim bulb. Kind of an "appropriate" replacement for Mac in Korea, while a "peace" was hacked out, by representatives of higher powers (Mao, US/UN, Stalin).

Sidenote; Vietnam was just a place for some defense contractors to make a lot of money and some new weapons to get tested. It was also the last piece of ground where ownership was finally settled from WWII, which was the start of the US Japanese conflict, as Japan seized that Vichy French territory , thus inviting FDR's fuel embargo causing Pearl Harbor.
So says SP4 Perrien! CP were you a Command Specialist 4th Class or just a Speedy 4?

Mike
Still got a problem I see DT. I can imagine what your enlisted troopers thought of you :milwink:

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Re: MacArthur -why the hate?

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Post by Delta Tank » 01 Jul 2016, 03:56

ChristopherPerrien wrote:
Delta Tank wrote:
ChristopherPerrien wrote:Yea, Ridgeway, was a very dim bulb. Kind of an "appropriate" replacement for Mac in Korea, while a "peace" was hacked out, by representatives of higher powers (Mao, US/UN, Stalin).

Sidenote; Vietnam was just a place for some defense contractors to make a lot of money and some new weapons to get tested. It was also the last piece of ground where ownership was finally settled from WWII, which was the start of the US Japanese conflict, as Japan seized that Vichy French territory , thus inviting FDR's fuel embargo causing Pearl Harbor.
So says SP4 Perrien! CP were you a Command Specialist 4th Class or just a Speedy 4?

Mike
Still got a problem I see DT. I can imagine what your enlisted troopers thought of you :milwink:
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