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Notts Yeomanry & Staffs Yeomanry.

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Post by David W » 21 Jun 2006, 09:25

I have got a provisional date of arrival in North Africa for this unit, of 19/02/42. Can anyone confirm?

Also, what quantity & type of tanks did they arrive with?
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Post by richardlionheart » 21 Jun 2006, 11:23

Hi,

I can confirm that the Nottinghamsire Yeomanry did arrived in North Africa 2nd Feb 1942, and it also fought apart of 8th Armoured Brigade.

I cant not confirm how many tanks they arrived with, but the common tank in use at that time would of been the Grant tank.

I hope this helps.

Some websites that might help you would be http://www.regiments.org, http://orbat.com/site/ww2/drleo/500_eto ... frica.html
http://www.warlinks.com/


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Post by Martin_Schenkel » 21 Jun 2006, 12:40

richardlionheart wrote:I cant not confirm how many tanks they arrived with, but the common tank in use at that time would of been the Grant tank.
I'm pretty sure the Grant didn't come into service with the 8th Armoured until a bit later in 1942. Apparently a handful of Grants arrived in 8th Armoured Brigade during March 1942, but I suspect that the regiments began their conversion to armour with Stuarts. I can't say if the Notts arrived with any tanks at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if they began recieving a few scraps of Stuarts, Grants, and Crusaders only after arriving in North Africa. The 8th Armoured was part of the 10th Armoured Division at the time, and the division was still very much in the process of converting from the 1st Cavalry Division during the spring of 1942.

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Post by Michael Emrys » 21 Jun 2006, 19:30

They don't show up in my source (which is very sketchy about dates) until 10/23/42, at which time they were equipped as following:
A Sqn. Crusaders
B Sqn. Shermans
C Sqn. Grants

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Post by RichTO90 » 21 Jun 2006, 20:39

Martin_Schenkel wrote:I'm pretty sure the Grant didn't come into service with the 8th Armoured until a bit later in 1942. Apparently a handful of Grants arrived in 8th Armoured Brigade during March 1942, but I suspect that the regiments began their conversion to armour with Stuarts. I can't say if the Notts arrived with any tanks at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if they began recieving a few scraps of Stuarts, Grants, and Crusaders only after arriving in North Africa. The 8th Armoured was part of the 10th Armoured Division at the time, and the division was still very much in the process of converting from the 1st Cavalry Division during the spring of 1942.
WO 169/3861 shows that the first three Grants were issued to 8th Armd. Bde between 19 and 29 March 1942. By 4 April there were six. Establishment as of that period in Notts Yeomanry was 24 Grant and 12 Stuarts, with total 8th Armd. Bde being 76 Grants and 64 Stuarts (three regiments, 24 and 20 each and HQ with 4 and 4). As of 2 May 8th Armd. Bde had 15 Grant and 75 Stuarts. After that things get jumbled.

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Post by David W » 22 Jun 2006, 00:35

Great info. Thanks guys! :D

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Post by JonS » 22 Jun 2006, 01:20

the 8th Armd Bde history (unit produciton, early post-war) is available on line.

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Post by David W » 22 Jun 2006, 01:41

Where pray would that be located sir?

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Post by richardlionheart » 22 Jun 2006, 01:55

Hi ,


I seem to recall, that most units weren't equip with tanks untill they arrived in North Africa.
Some more website you might want to look at;
http://www.army.mod.uk/royalyeomanry/s_history.htm
http://members.lycos.co.uk/sry1/
http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/v ... ttsSRY.htm

Books worth while buying would
Volume1 British Army Series by David Ryan try Helion.Co.Uk
Regiments of the British Army 1939-1945 by Malcolm Bellis
Orders of Battle Second World War 1939-1945 by Lt.Col. H.F.Jolsen


I hope this helps.
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Richard :D :D :D

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Post by JonS » 22 Jun 2006, 02:06

http://www.warlinks.com/armour/8th_armoured/index.html

(Notts are referred to as Sherwood Rangers)

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Post by David W » 22 Jun 2006, 02:27

Thanks guys. I'll go check those sites out tomorrow.

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Post by richardlionheart » 24 Jun 2006, 05:52

It should be Http://www.regiments.org
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Post by David W » 27 Jun 2006, 08:51

How about the Staffs Yeomanry?

I have got a provisional date of arrival in North Africa for this unit, of 19/02/42. Can anyone confirm?

Also, what quantity & type of tanks did they arrive with?

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Post by Michael Emrys » 28 Jun 2006, 03:13

Again, the earliest date I have for them is 23/10/42 and they were equipped then the same as the Notts. Sorry not to be of more help.

Michael

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Post by Martin_Schenkel » 28 Jun 2006, 08:44

The Staffs would have transited from Palestine with 8th Armd Bde (10th Armd Div) in early 1942, and Joslen lists 8th Armd arriving in Egypt 19 Feb 42. The Staffs were part of the original 6th Cavalry Bde, 1st Cavalry Division, and began converting from Mechanised Cavalry in Palestine during late 1941 and early 1942. Since Grants didn't appear in the Bde until March 42, presumably the Staffs moved to Egypt with only a handful of Stuarts, and likely still mostly organised along Mech-Cav lines. As comparison, according to Hughes, the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry (also part of 10th Armd Div) had only 4 Stuarts in early 1942, before Grants began arriving. I imagine the Staffs were in a similar state.

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