British Patrol Boats in Palestine

[Dili]

This are the named patrol boats: EAGLE, HAWK, MOQITA, SEASNIPE, SNIPE refered in the excellent http://www.naval-history.net/xDKWW2-420 ... erseas.htm. Anyone have more info about them? looking for specifications, images.

Thanks.

[phylo_roadking]

Interesting, when i first saw this i wondered if they were the East Med Fleet's Fairmiles, later usd by SOE/Force 13 for insertions into Crete etc., but they're listed separately...

[Andy H]

I've searched through HT Lentons British & Empire Warships, and there not listed as such, which tends to lead me to believe that they were 'patrol boats' in name. Lenton does have a listing for a SNIPE with a pennant number 20 under Flag U (1940), BUT Flag U's were designated for Escort vessels and not Patrol vessels which were Flag K.

My guess is that these vessels maybe local and pressed into a auxillary function, though for them not to be listed in Lenton is strange.

There is a book called The Royal Navy and the Palestine Patrol which may give you some more information

Regards

Andy H

[Andy H]

It could well be that these vessels belonged to the Port & Marine Division/Department of the Palestine Police!

There is a reference in Hansard regarding 5 Government launches being used to patrol the coast to stop Jewish refugees, though this is for 1939, but they may well be the same vessels.

Regards

Andy H

[Dili]

Thanks Andy H.

[tigre]

Hello to all ; just a little doubt..........................

Royal Navy's actions against illegal immigrants in Palestine 1939.

Sources: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... )_1939.jpg
The Holocaust Conspiracy: An International Policy of Genocide. Escrito por William R. Perl. 1989.
Die Zweite Weltkrieg. Der Seekrieg 1939. J. Piekalkiewicz

More details about it; how long lasted that policy? specifications, images of HMS Lorna. TIA. Cheers. Raúl M .

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[Dili]

Thanks for the interest, but in the photo it is the Tiger Hill not HMS Lorna.

[tigre]

Hello Dili ; of course...I did not find any picture about the HMS "Lorna". Somebody has any on hand? Cheers. Raúl M .

[Dili]

This is the information i found about Lorna: http://www.uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/13679.html


Launched 31 Aug 1904 , build by Scotts Shipbuilding & Engineering Co. (Greenock, Scotland) , Displacement: 427 tons.
Requisitioned by the Admiralty in September 1939.
Served as Armed Boarding Vessel.
Returned in 1941.

In service also in WW1 http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyBri ... mar4AP.htm
LORNA (ex‑BERYL), hired yacht, Pendant No 024. Built 1904, 427grt/484TM. Armament: 2‑6pdr. In service 30.9.14‑2.2.19. May have served as wireless-equipped A/P Group Leader or in special yacht squadrons, at home or in Mediterranean. Served in WW2.

It was in 10 June in Gibraltar.

[Dili]

Disregard the last post.

It seems there was another Lorna this in Palestine, i got it from warsailors from member paulh , this thread http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1, ... #msg-45918 , where someone makes precisely my question!

Here is a list of the vessels of the Palestine Police Patrol, not much detailed information I am afraid and most dimensions are approximate:

MORETA The largest in the fleet, former yacht. Built 1928, Thornycroft. 84' x 15'6" x 5'. Pendant R 306 during WWII. Sunk by limpet mine in Haifa harbor, 1 Nov 1945; refloated & recommissioned.
SINBAD Built 1933, Thornycroft, 68' x 15'. Sunk by explosion south of Natanya, 9 Aug 1939.
SEAHAWK Built 1929, Glasgow. 65'6" long. Sunk by limpet mine in Haifa harbor, 1 Nov 1945. Refloated & recommissioned.
PHOENIX Built in Haifa, 30' x 8' x3', 1 screw.
MEANDER Ketch, built 1907, Whitstable. 13 tons, 36' long, auxiliary engine. Acquired 1938. Used for sail training. 1942 loaned to City of Alexandria, taken by Egyptians to Red Sea, as far south as Massawa, Eritrea.
LORNA Built about 1930, Thornycroft. Acquired Jul 1935. 35' x 12' x 4', diesel engine.
SEALION 30' x 10' x 3'6", 2 screws, 2 engines. Disappeared on a mission to blow up oil refineries at Tripoli, Syria, 18 May 1941. On board were 23 members of the Palmach under Zvi Spector, commanded by Major Sir Anthony Palmer; all were lost.
SEAWOLF Former Thames sightseeing boat, 2 screws, 50' x 18' x 3. Acquired 1939.
SHARK Built 1939 by Vosper. 30' x 10' x 3', 2 engines. Bow blown off by explosion at Jaffa, 1 Nov 1945;
repaired.
LORNA Oldest in fleet 1 screw, 35 x 12 x 4. Diesel engine. Built by Thornycroft about 1930. Aquired Jul 1935.
HAWK Taken overland to Sea of Galilee
EAGLE Transferred to Sea of Galilee before Sep 1938
GADWALL Diesel cruiser, 2 screws. 30' x 10' x 3'
ALICE Ketch rigged fishing trawler, 40' x 20' x 6'; Chartered 1940.
Two former HDML:
Launch 1145 Transferred Feb 1946. Launched 26 Nov 1942 by H.Woods, Potter Heigham
Launch 1158 Transferred Feb 1946. Launched 11 May 1942 by D.Hillyard, Littlehampton.

Source: members of the Palestine Police Old Comrades Association who served on these boats. PHS

[tigre]

Hello Dili ; I was talking about that last HMS "Lorna", thanks for your info Cheers. Raúl M .

[UMachine]

No surprise that the Sealion doesn't make the naval-history.net list.. No date of manufacture or the shipyard....besides the fact that it shares the same name as the sub,not much of note..

[UMachine]

Just ordered The Palestine Patrol and The Royal Navy from Routledge.

[UMachine]

Very little in this book for the time period of 1941,mostly concerns the refugees arriving later on.