Vickers Utility B Tractor
Vickers Utility B Tractor
Hi, was the Vickers Utility B Tractor armoured in any way ?, I know the Belgians had three models, Cavalry, Infantry & unarmoured, I know if they had armour it would be light, but dose anyone know its thickness ?.
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Re: Vickers Utility B Tractor
Yan, I've got one small picture in a magazine - on the "unarmoured" type, all there is is the front sloping "glacis" (glorified dashboard ) then the driver in an open seat, and the engine mounted high behind him. The sides are totally open!
Think of a Caterpillar goping in reverse! One of these MINUS the folding-down sides/seats...
NOT what I'd care to go to war on/in....
Think of a Caterpillar goping in reverse! One of these MINUS the folding-down sides/seats...
NOT what I'd care to go to war on/in....
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Ah! Here we go!
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And here's a large version of the magazine pic I have....the original 1936 Vickers Carden-Loyd Utility Tractor! I LOVE the pop-up Bren gun! Can't help wondering why he's wearing a steel helmet....when the rest of him could so easily be perforated!!!
Looks really happy, don't he???
Looks really happy, don't he???
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However, according to Steve Zaloga...
Meanwhile, back in the NEI....
Here's the B - notice its plain sides, rather than the fold down typeThe towing vehicle finally selected was the Vickers Utility B tractor, a very small commercial design, of which at least three versions were prepared for the Belgian army; the Cavalry model, sometime called Model 1 or Type A; the Infantry model called the Model 2 or Type B; and an unarmoured type.
Meanwhile, back in the NEI....
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What IS it about these that made people driving them look so glum???
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Hmm...
Interesting.
http://www.aviarmor.net/TWW2/tanks/gb/vcl_utility.htmWere produced in two versions, officially designated as Tractor, Light, GS Mk.I and Tractor, Light, GS Mk.Ia (HS). In this case, an acronym standing for HS High Speed and was related to the cavalry. For Belgium, these options have also been submitted, but they were referred to as Model 1 (Type A) and Model 2 (Type B).
Interesting.
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Thanks Phylo your pictures and comments have brightend up a gloomy day here in the UK. The pictures above looks like it had some sort of Armoured plate on them but it is impossible to tell if it could stop a bullet.
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Yan, there's no way to tell from a pic whether what you're looking at is armourplate....or just steel plate I don't think there's much of a chassis/frame under there...there's only minimal lines of rivetting holding the sidings on, for instance....and I've seen pics of a damaged british VUT at Dunkirk - there's nothing valuable UNDER that sloped glacis, its just another storage box! If you look at the last pic you can clearly see the three hinges along the bottom edge, turning it into a lid, not a glacis Don't forget the guncrew had to carry ALL its cr@p.... and themselves!...on these ickle things...so they're actually a study in optimisation of carrying capacity rather than making the smallest armoured vehicle
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its similar to a frame of a normal softskin vehicle then just sheet metal, basically a frame.
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Yan, I've had a comeback from elsewhere - the 1936 Vickers Carden-loyd Utility Tractor front sloped plate was "1/4-inch steel plate" I.E. not armourplate. Same in the Mk1 GS tractor in British service.
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Thanks Phylo, it sounds similar to the first LVT-1, it had steel plates which acording to the Americans was not armoured.
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Re: Vickers Utility B Tractor
That is not a BREN gun. It is a Vickers-Berthier LMG
Vickers Utility B Tractor
Hello fellas, altough ive got some experience in this line of work for a few years, ive just got my o-licence recently and i would like to rent a tractor unit to get the things movin. Have any of you got some advice from where i could rent a decent unit at a fair price ? Cheers
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