David Lloyd George's pro-Nazi views

[Darth Vader]

It is a fact that David Lloyd George admired Adolf Hitler as a leader, sympathised with Nazi Germany as a regime and was strongly impressed by Nazism as an ideology.

Whether or not you accept this as pro-Nazism, it is unacceptable.

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi DV,

Certainly Lloyd George was impressed by Hitler personally, especially initially, as were many others.

Lloyd George was a pragmatic admirer of the state-sponsored public works programme in Germany as a means of alleviating unemployment. However, as both Stalin and Roosevelt also had similar state-sponsored public works programmes, this does not appear to be a defining characteristic of Nazism

I have seen no reference to his supposed admiration for Nazism as an ideology on this thread yet. Evidence please.

Sid.

[Darth Vader]

Hello Sid

Certainly Lloyd George was impressed by Hitler personally, especially initially, as were many others.

David Lloyd George expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler even after war had been declared.

Lloyd George was a pragmatic admirer of the state-sponsored public works programme in Germany as a means of alleviating unemployment.

David Lloyd George was an admirer of Nazi Germany including its public works programmes.

I have seen no reference to his supposed admiration for Nazism as an ideology on this thread yet. Evidence please.

For the third time: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tRRo ... ud_r&cad=6

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi DV,

No, none of the three quotes your link points to offer any evidence that Lloyd George had any admiration for Nazism as an ideology.

One does make the same accusation you are making, but it, too, offers absolutely no evidence.

I will believe anything if the evidence is there, so please provide some.

Cheers,

Sid.

[Darth Vader]

Hello Sid

Here is a link to the book which the three quotes derive from:
http://www.faber.co.uk/catalog/fellow-t ... 0571271320
How coincidental that the book's original cover was a picture of David Lloyd George and Adolf Hitler.

[Harro]

How coincidental that the book's original cover was a picture of David Lloyd George and Adolf Hitler.

Yes, being pictured with Adi must be conclusive prove that someone was pro-nazi...

[Darth Vader]

Yes, being pictured with Adi must be conclusive prove that someone was pro-nazi...

Considering that the book is about British Enthusiasts for Nazi Germany, David Lloyd George is the perfect paradigm.

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi DV,

Is that the sum total of your evidence? Some anonymous art director's choice of photo for a book cover decades later?

Are there no sourced quotes from Lloyd George regarding Nazi ideology in the book?

Lloyd George was certainly an embarrassingly gushing admirer of Hitler personally in 1936 and, although by 1940 a supporter of Churchill, believed Hitler a great (not good) man in 1940. Yet Lloyd George doesn't make it onto the list of public figures mentioned in the publisher's blurb.

Please, give us some sourced substantive evidence that Lloyd George was an admirer of Nazi ideology. Was it the racial theory? Was it the drive for lebensraum? Was it the one-part-state? Was it the Fuhrer Prinzip? Was it the militarization? Was it the corporatism? Strength Through Joy? Mass youth movements? Etc., etc.

Sid.

[Darth Vader]

Hello Sid

Are there no sourced quotes from Lloyd George regarding Nazi ideology in the book?

I assume that you do possess the necessary means to purchase the book.

Lloyd George was certainly an embarrassingly gushing admirer of Hitler personally

We agree on something then.

although by 1940 a supporter of Churchill

His support for Winston Churchill did not last long.

believed Hitler a great (not good) man in 1940.

He believed him to be a great man in 1936.

Yet Lloyd George doesn't make it onto the list of public figures mentioned in the publisher's blurb.

No, he features on the original front cover.

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi DV,

I presume from the above that you haven't actually seen the book you are citing as a reference. Conventionally, if one wants to cite something as evidence, one does at least read it first.

As you appear to have missed all my direct questions, I will help you by repeating them:

"Please, give us some sourced substantive evidence that Lloyd George was an admirer of Nazi ideology. Was it the racial theory? Was it the drive for lebensraum? Was it the one-part-state? Was it the Fuhrer Prinzip? Was it the militarization? Was it the corporatism? Strength Through Joy? Mass youth movements? Etc., etc."

Sid

[Darth Vader]

Hello Sid

I presume from the above that you haven't actually seen the book you are citing as a reference.

You are mistaken.

Conventionally, if one wants to cite something as evidence, one does at least read it first.

Which is why I have suggested the book for you to read.

"Please, give us some sourced substantive evidence that Lloyd George was an admirer of Nazi ideology. Was it the racial theory? Was it the drive for lebensraum? Was it the one-part-state? Was it the Fuhrer Prinzip? Was it the militarization? Was it the corporatism? Strength Through Joy? Mass youth movements? Etc., etc."

You will have your answer as to why David Lloyd George was strongly impressed by Nazism in the book.

[Andy H]

Hi DV

Your dodging the question(s) again!

Please answer Sid's question:-

"Please, give us some sourced substantive evidence that Lloyd George was an admirer of Nazi ideology. Was it the racial theory? Was it the drive for lebensraum? Was it the one-part-state? Was it the Fuhrer Prinzip? Was it the militarization? Was it the corporatism? Strength Through Joy? Mass youth movements? Etc., etc."

If you can't then fine and I'll close the thread down

Regards

Andy H

[Darth Vader]

Hello Andy

If this thread was going to be closed down, it would have been done already.

[Crazy_Ivan]

It has not been shut down because there is the potential for a good discussion, but this is a research forum that requires substantive sources. You have not provided much, even that book you have provided, have you read some of the peer reviews? Some of the sources are 2nd and 3rd hand.

[David Thompson]

Darth Vader -- There is a pending question for you. Answer it.

Unresponsive future posts from you will be deleted on sight, so as not to further spoil the thread.