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Winston Churchill the War Criminal

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Post by Klaus1943 » 27 Jun 2015, 01:54

The Political Serial Killer: Winston Churchill

There are several types of serial killers which are categorized and studied by the FBI. The backgrounds of such killers have amazingly similar backgrounds which reach back to their childhoods. As children they were unable to do well in school and they came from dysfunctional families in that they were neglegted by either one of the parents or both of the parents. Such problems indicated that their adult careers would be categorized by aggression. Another characteristic is that such individuals have a lack of remorse for their sins, transgressions and crimes. They are narcissistic and have a need to control and cannot tolerate opposition.

There should be another category which the FBI has not included in its list and that is the political serial killer, the type of which has the background of the serial killer, but is of the type who does not do his own killing but goes into politics in order to give the commands which result in the deaths of specific groups of people which the politician desires to wipe out. The reason is either that he lacks the courage to do the killing himself or he wishes that more people to be killed than he could ever accomplish for himself.

Such an individual is none other than Winston Churchill who grew up as a child severely neglected by both his mother and father who were never around when he needed their love and affection. The parents were more interested in their own lives than to be bothered by their offspring and so they handed him off to the nannies to be raised by different personalities and he would never have that role model that children require, as if Lord Randolph Churchill was the type to be emulated. The result would manifest itself in his actions and words in the future. He would have bouts of depression and resort heavily to the bottle. His academic career at Harrow was poor, even though he had the innate qualities and high intelligence. He would marry a woman who was equally depressed with a dysfunctional childhood and with whom he could be miserable.

Churchill's life would be dominated by a rage within his mind for which the outlet would be to have others suffer due to his lack of a proper upbringing. He would join the army and go to Africa where, in the Sudan, he rejoiced in the slaughter by modern weaponry of the Dervishers at Omdurman in 1898. He would resign his commission and as a journalist fail to condemn the concentration camps in South Africa during the Boer War where some 25,000 old men, women and children would die due to British policy. He would be the driving force to have Great Britain enter the First World War against Germany and also take action to mobilize the Royal Navy before war was even declared. As First Lord of the Admiralty he developed the policy of the food blockade which resulted in some 750,000 German civilians dying of starvation. This food blockade was continued for some six months after the November 11, 1918 armistice and as Minister for War, he did nothing to stop the blockade. And he never expressed one word of sympathy for these victims.

During WW 1 Churchill's policy at Gallipolli failed and he was forced to resign. He reentered the British Army and was appointed a battalion commander with the rank of Lt. Col. Evidently, he decided that he did not want to be a statistic on the western front and this lasted only for two months, January to March, 1916, and he resigned again to return to politics to further the war against civilians instead of soldiers.

After WW 1 he had recommended the use of poison gases against the tribesmen of Iraq, even though by then the civilized world had recoiled in the use of such weapons. During WW 2 he advocated the use of anthrax against Germany, hoping that five million Germans would die as a result. He was a proponent of the Morganthau Plan which would have reduced the German population to 25 million. He sold out Eastern Europe to mass murderer Stalin and his policy to return the Cossacks to Stalin to be exterminated meant nothing the Churchill, who never once showed any remorse for the deaths of civilians as a result of his own philosophy. He never cared about the death of one Frenchman who was killed by Churchill's order to attack the French fleet at Oran or the tens of thousands killed by RAF Bomber Command's attacks on French cities or on the deaths of thousands of Belgians, Dutch, Norwegians, Danes, etc. by the bombing attacks. And he certainly had no remorse of the hundreds of thousands of German civilians who died in the bombing attacks, which he personally ordered. This is the same individual who claimed that he liked Stalin whom he characterized as a great man. One dysfunctional man praising another dysfunctional man.

Churchill's record as a political serial killer is consistent throughout his life, from his dysfunctional personality beginning with his childhood and through to the end of his life, during which time he never showed one ounce of sympathy for his victims even though he claimed that he represented Christian civilization.

What is sad is that the Fox News Network continues to idolize this criminal and never mentioning his crimes.

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Post by John G. » 27 Jun 2015, 02:35

I take it you don't like Mr. Churchill then? 8O

Many people would find you conclusions quite amusing....to say the least. Like all men, he certianly had his faults, but being classified as a "mass murder" (on a par with Hitler & Stalin) is quite ridiculous... he did what was required, given the real world at the time he lived in.... facing the situations of those times.

You can believe what you want... of course.... but history certianly recognizes Churchill to be a great leader and savior of Great Britian....flawed, but with the courage to do what he believed was necessary to achieve victory.

I have no problem recognizing his flaws and short comings, but feel he deserves full credit for being England's Prime Minister durning the most important period in modern history.... You can believe what you want.... I see no problem bombing Cities in Total War, shelling the French Fleet (the French had options they refused), nor have much sympathy for the Russian/Cosssacks "Traitors" who were repatriated... (they weren't "freedom fighters"... they were considered traitors to thier nation... at that time!)... and all nations had plans for potential use of Chemical & Biological weapons.

You're probably not a big fan of Mr. Roosevelt/Mr. Truman with that "A-Bomb" thing either, I suppose....
Best wishs... :thumbsup:
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Post by Michael Kenny » 27 Jun 2015, 06:28

Recently posted on http://justice4germans.com/warcrimes/ and quoting a review of Irving's Churchill book on Amazon by someone calling himself 'Sepp Dietrich'.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-rev ... E0RZMG7VZC


Reading all Sepp's WW2 book reviews shows he is a very strident proponent of WW2 Germany and a devout Anglophobe.

'Sepp Dietrich' is in fact AHF member 'Klaus1943'.


http://www.amazon.com/review/RMAUNU5WCH ... tore=books


http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6#p1904236

Why use the name of a convicted War Criminal?

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Post by Patches » 27 Jun 2015, 11:19

Klaus1943 wrote:...but is of the type who does not do his own killing but goes into politics in order to give the commands which result in the deaths of specific groups of people which the politician desires to wipe out. The reason is either that he lacks the courage to do the killing himself or he wishes that more people to be killed than he could ever accomplish for himself.
Sounds a lot like Hitler! 8O

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Post by Takao » 27 Jun 2015, 12:23

Me thinks the ghost of Mr. Churchill pisses daily in Klaus's morning Cheerios. This would go a long way to explain His hostility to Mr. Churchill.

It appears that Klaus only believes the "truth" written in Mr. Irving's "novels."

Tearing his post apart bit by bit is not viable timewise. So, I will conclude with

Enjoy that morning bowl of Cheerios and thanks for a great laugh before I sally off to work.

Cheers!

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Post by Patches » 28 Jun 2015, 08:39

Unsurprisingly, the above mentioned web site is strikingly revisionist with reported ties to a neo-Nazi organization so it is hardly a source of accurate information. Unless perhaps one is a pro-Nazi or Hitler apologist type themselves.

The author of the web site is reported to be Michael McLaughlin, also known as Michael Walsh, a failed far-right British politician and author of numerous revisionist books (for example this is being hawked on justice4germans.com: http://www.amazon.com/Heroes-Reich-One- ... +the+reich). What dreck.

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Post by toque » 28 Jun 2015, 10:09

Setting aside the emotive language ...

Churchill:

Advocated the use of anthrax against German cities.
Advocated the use of poison gas against 'inferior races'.
Advocated the mass slaughter of civilians during the General Strike.

None of which is significantly different to the thinking on the other side of the Channel.

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Post by Klaus1943 » 28 Jun 2015, 20:31

To Michael Kenny: Any Allied War Crimes Trial would have convicted a ham sandwich.

To Patches: Adolf Hitler fought almost four years on the Western Front during WW 1, except when on leave or in the hospital. Churchill did not. The only crime ever committed by Hitler before he came to power was to try to overthrow the Bavarian government in 1923. Churchill's crimes go back to WW 1 and then suppressing the Iraqi rebellion in the 1920s. Churchill also with Stalin invaded Iran in August 1941 to get free oil. The problems with Iran today can be traced to this war crime.

To Takao: I do not eat Cheerios and don't believe in ghosts.

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Post by Michael Kenny » 28 Jun 2015, 21:56

Klaus1943 wrote:To Michael Kenny: Any Allied War Crimes Trial would have convicted a ham sandwich.
Ham? You must be thinking of that other convicted war criminal and German hero who fought to the death and never surrendered ........err I mean was arrested by a policeman whilst cowering in a pig-sty/chicken coop. What was his name again... Kurt Meyer?

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Post by John G. » 29 Jun 2015, 00:55

I believe the current troubles in the Middle east/Iran/Iraq have little to do with allied intervention in 1941,... the Balfore Declaration & the the CIA setting up the Shau in the 50s, yes, religious prejudice/persecution, yes, extremism, yes, ... also, I'm pretty sure Churchill did spend time in the trenches after he resigned from the Admirality... maybe not as much as Adolf... but whatever... you can't judge 19th/early 20th century "Imperial" thinking with 21st century standards... that's why we study history. I welcome your opinions and agree to disagree... but everything has to be in proper context... and all people, big or little, Lord or pauper... is imperfect and flawed... but that doesn't change "his or her" place in history.... the good and the evil... Churchill and Hitler ... both certianly flawed men who for many reasons will be historical figures as long as "man" treads this old earth...
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Post by Andy H » 29 Jun 2015, 01:35

Michael Kenny wrote:Recently posted on http://justice4germans.com/warcrimes/ and quoting a review of Irving's Churchill book on Amazon by someone calling himself 'Sepp Dietrich'.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-rev ... E0RZMG7VZC


Reading all Sepp's WW2 book reviews shows he is a very strident proponent of WW2 Germany and a devout Anglophobe.

'Sepp Dietrich' is in fact AHF member 'Klaus1943'.


http://www.amazon.com/review/RMAUNU5WCH ... tore=books


http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6#p1904236

Why use the name of a convicted War Criminal?
Hi

There are some seriously deluded POV's that have such an imbalance of fact, context and reality, that any attempt at a logical response would be wasted upon the delusional minority that believes them.

Thanks for posting

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