Dunkelgelb wich one?

[Warager]

Wich of the following looks like a more acurate dunkelgelb since i have seen many variations of dunkelgelb
sample 1 a very cream like color

[Warager]

sample2 a very yellow tipe

[Warager]

sample3 not so creamy not too yellow

[Warager]

Sample 4 a bit brown

[Warager]

And sample 4 very clear color almost white
sorry for not putting all the pics in a single post i don´t know how

[Ace31]

Hard to answer!
I think it's impossible to determinate the "right" Dunkelgelb (RAL 7028), because there're many factors that could change the color (manifacturer, how long it was exposed to the atmospheric agents, type of surface...).
If the color was applied on the battlefield we must to consider how it was made and sprayed.
Just for curiosity I tryed to do a Google Image search and...this is the result

[Warager]

i have tried that in google too acording to some people there was only one tone of dunkelgelb that was applied on the factory,that one the factory dunkelgelb is what i want to know how it looked not the one that was applied on the field
was it like a creamy color or a dark one or a very yellow type?

[Jkpg1977]

Well the final result would depend not only on the expusure to the sunlight and such factors, but also on how it was aplied to the surface, namely if you´d mix the paste in which form the paint was delivered to the front line units. The thought then would be to mix it all with either gasoline or diesel, but as we all know towards the end of the war Germany didn´t exacly have any fuel to spare. So they started to mix it with water. This varied the final colour tone from light sand yellow to very dark sand yellow.

Your from Spain, read "X-treme modelling" issue 11 of last year, in that magazine you´ll find an article about the Jagdtiger and partly about how the result of the paint job depended on how it was mixed in order to be able be spray painted onto the surface.

Hope I was of some help.

Morgan, Sweden

[Panzerfaust60]

I am no expert but I would say that the first and lasti is absoulutly not right, the two tigers I is to yellow and to brown, I liked the kingtiger most

[Jurrie]

I think there is a lot of variation in color possible, just as you see with the models.

I mostly use Tamiya XF59 Desert Sand

Jurrie

[tonyh]

Sample 3 is a close match.

Humbrol 83 is a good paint to use for dunkelgelb.

Tony

[Warager]

Ok so sample 3 is the most accurate right now

[martin webster]

I would say sample 3 but any of them would be ok. I use either Tamiya XF-60 or Humbrol94.
when we had to paint vehicles when i was in the army the green colour ranged from dark green to pea green and it would be the same with dunkelgelb.

martin

[Christian Ankerstjerne]

Today, all well-perserved vehicles show a relatively uniform Dunkelgelb, but the problem remains that noone actually knows what it looked like back during the war. There are no original paint chips which have survived, and the paint on the vehicles themselves are not reliable enough, as the colour change over time.

Therefore, all the suggestions which you get on how to mix and match existing colours is pseudo.

Until Jentz publish his promised bible on WWII German colours, the discussion in moot. Simply use the colour which you find most appealing.

By the way, photographs can't be used to determine colour, as demonstrated below:

Move three meters to the left and we get this

[BaggyPants]

But we do know what the correct colour should be. All german paints have an RAL code. I just got a 1ltr tin of RAL6006 made up, which is the late war helmet and equipment colour. The WWII colours are still on the modern RAL charts