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Re: Germany and the 2nd World War series (Oxford translation

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Post by ljadw » 09 Apr 2010, 07:45

I bought yesterday Volume VIII(German edition) in Cologne for 49,8 euro :is this a reasonable price ?

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Post by Richard Hargreaves » 09 Apr 2010, 08:59

It's what Amazon is charging. There are a few second-hand volumes for about 35 Euros, but the new editions are all around 50 Euros.


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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 12 Dec 2014, 13:04

Volume IV (English) has been posted here as open source:

https://archive.org/details/GermanyAndS ... ovietUnion

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 12 Dec 2014, 13:31

Having worked for many years in academic publishing, I can explain OUP rational about these books.
There are about 3,000 academic libraries worldwide with English language collections, so most publishers base their print run on this number and then soak up any remaining sales as 'print on demand' books on a low level of annual sales.
But the costing for the break even and profit side have to be done on the print run alone and with translation costs for such large books, this will account for the high cost of the books.
I doubt if large rights sums were paid to MGFA for the books, certainly this would not be a main driver for them, whereas greater use through another language certainly would.

One of the principal rise in publishing costs has been the effect of the internet as students no longer buy textbooks and libraries do not buy journals and college lecturers now provide all the course material in a booklet. So to sell books now, you have to digatise them and then try and sell individual rights to chapters to the college lecturers or to the students via their online research portals and collect the rights fees through the third party research agents like Ingenta. All this activity is a lot harder and more expensive that the traditional journal/textbook/ academic book model and sales are far less predictable.
Which is why the publishing industry here in the UK has lost tens of thousands of jobs since 2000.

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 15 Jan 2015, 09:08

Clarendon Press has announced the publication of paperback edition of the series starting in May 2015 with volumes I II III IV VI VII which covers all the military subjects up to 1944. Volume V parts I & II on the economy are not included in this initial tranche. Prices are in the range £40-50 per volume which is better than the current hardback price of £300 but still substantially more than the German language edition.

Volume VIII War in the East 1944 is still untranslated.

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Post by Paul_Atreides » 17 Jan 2015, 08:54

Der Alte Fritz wrote:Clarendon Press has announced the publication of paperback edition of the series starting in May 2015 with volumes I II III IV VI VII which covers all the military subjects up to 1944.
But fightings in Northern Africa from November 1942 (after El Alamein) to May 1943 is skipped. Anybody knows why?

P.S. Thanks for the link.
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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 17 Jan 2015, 18:00

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_an ... _World_War

Volume VI: The Global War covers from El Alamain to Tunis as well as a whole range of other subjects for 1942.

"Stalingrad, Rzhev, Velikye Luki, The Caucusus, Egypt.. The End of Vichy France, Invasion of North Africa and Iran, Kasserine and the Final Pocket at Tunis. The Japanese conquests - Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea, Midway. The failure of German, Manpower, transportation and Industry and the ominous rumblings of what was to come with the stepping up of Strategic Bombing.. The triumph and fall of the Uboat arm."

Volume VII: The Strategic Air War in Europe and the War in the West and East Asia 1943-1944/5. Take the secondary fronts forward for 1943, 44 and 45.

Volume VIII: The War in the East and in Other Fronts 1943/44 . Cover the war with Russia 1943-44 and Balkans, etc. This has yet to be translated into English due to the death of the editor. Due in 2017. Available in German

Volume IX: German society. Due 2018
Volume X: German collapse 1945. Due 2018. Not completed in German.

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Post by Paul_Atreides » 17 Jan 2015, 20:02

Der Alte Fritz wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_an ... _World_War

Volume VI: The Global War covers from El Alamain to Tunis as well as a whole range of other subjects for 1942.
I'm a little confused.

PART V

The War in the Mediterranean Area 1942-1943: Operations in North Africa and the Central Mediterranean
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IV. THE ALLIED LANDING IN NORTH-WEST AFRICA AND THE GERMAN-ITALIAN PANZERARMEE'S RETREAT TO TUNISIA

1. The Landing in French North Africa (Operation Torch) and the Establishment of the Tunisian Bridgehead (7 November 1942-31 January 1943)
2. The German-Italian Armoured Army's Retreat to the Tunisian Border, 4 November 1942-2 February 1943

V. THE GERMAN OCCUPATION OF VICHY FRANCE AND THE SEIZURE OF TOULON (OPERATIONS ANTON AND LILA, 11-27 NOVEMBER 1942)

So, operations in february-may 43 skipped.
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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 17 Jan 2015, 23:30

Events in 1943 are covered in Volume VIII which is only available in German at present,

Die Ostfront 1943/44: Der Krieg im Osten und an den Nebenfronten.

http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=23082

“This volume begins after the Battle of Stalingrad in spring 1943 and concludes at the end of 1944, just prior to the Soviet Vistula-Oder operation in January 1945. Although this work deals primarily with the eastern front, approximately two hundred pages address Scandinavia, Greece, Yugoslavia, North Africa, and Italy. The treatment, however, is not even. There are eighty pages on Yugoslavia, but only sixty devoted to the German surrender in Tunisia and the campaigns in Sicily and Italy until May 1945. The volume focuses overwhelmingly on operational history, with little attention to occupation policy and war crimes.”

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Post by Paul_Atreides » 18 Jan 2015, 19:21

Oh, thanks again.
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