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Books by David Irving

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Post by J. Duncan » 10 Jul 2011, 11:48

Staying abreast of Irving's Himmler researches and awaiting his forthcoming book. He appears to have posted a possible dust jacket for his book along with a jacket sample (a "teaser" I suppose). This book is going to be a bombshell with many new disclosures. I like his chosen photograph for the possible jacket. I can see that Himmler has a line extending across his upper cheek where glasses have made their mark, so he didn't wear his well known pinz-nez all of the time.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Himmler/Catalogue38.pdf


[Title changed from 'Irving's "Himmler"' as the thread covers all his books]

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Post by Max Williams » 10 Jul 2011, 12:20

I think he's being a little presumptive in his description of it being "the final biography." I'm sure others will follow as more information comes to light. As for the photograph, it's a cropped section of a well known photo of Himmler at a Polizei parade which has been published in several books, including one of mine. I do think it slightly amusing that Irving gives precedence to his own name as author than to the actual subject of the book!
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Post by J. Duncan » 10 Jul 2011, 12:31

Astute observations Max...Irving is quite ego-centric although I think that when he writes "the final biography", I think he is refering to HIS (Irving's) final biography....he has stated often that this will be his last biographical book. I'm quite certain that is what is implied but the way it's written it can easily be misinterpreted.

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Post by Ian Hulley » 11 Jul 2011, 01:53

J. Duncan wrote: he has stated often that this will be his last biographical book.
We can but hope that that is the case.

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Post by MLW » 11 Jul 2011, 03:12

In light of what has transpired in the last decade or so, how can anyone seriously put credence in anything written by Irving? His historical objectivity is questionable and his activities reprehensible.

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Post by Stuckes58 » 11 Jul 2011, 12:24

Like MLW i have to agree as to the objectiveness of how this biography will be written. however i do imagine that there could be some new information regarding Himmler which we could draw our own conclusions from and ignore whatever view Irving decides to take on it.

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Post by coburg22 » 11 Jul 2011, 14:42

I would have been happier if Ian Kershaw wrote it, he did a great job on Hitler.

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Post by Georges JEROME » 11 Jul 2011, 18:37

on Himmler, I've the following biographies :

Roger Manvell and Heinrich Fraenkel Himmler Nel Mentor 1965
Alan Wyke Himmler Pan Ballantine 1972
Heinrich Himmler Discours Secrets Gallimard 1978 (Geheimreden 1933 bis 1945 und andere ansprachen)
Johannes Tuchel Heinrich Himmler - Der Reichsführer-SS in Die SS. Elite unter dem Totenkopf Schöningh 2000
Josef Ackermann Heinrich Himmler : Reichsführer-SS in The Nazi Elite Macmillan 1993
Der Dienstkalender Heinrich Himmles 1941/1942 Christians 1999
Martin Mansson Heinrich Himmler a photographic chronicle of Hitler's Reichsführer-SS Schiffer 2001
Peter Padfield Himmler Reichsführer SS Macmillan 1990
Schulz and Dieter Zinke Heinrich Himmler in Die Generale der Waffen SS und die Polizei Band 2 Biblio Verlag 2005
Max Williams heinrich Himmler in the SS Leadership Corps volume I Ulric of England 2004

I recommand warmly 5 last. they complete each one.

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Post by Georges JEROME » 11 Jul 2011, 18:43

I forgot

Helmut Heiber Reichsführer ! Briefe an und von Himmler Deutsche Verlags-Anstalt 1968 (interesting)

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Post by J. Duncan » 11 Jul 2011, 20:47

There is also the very early biography by Willi Frischauer (one of the first bios of Himmler, published in 1953) who interviewed Himmler's brother Gebhard and many acquaintances. Still a valuable book.

There is also Bradley Smith's "Heinrich Himmler: A Nazi in the Making" which is a study of Himmler's youth, the struggles he went through, the books he read and studied, with much information gleaned from his personal diary.

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Post by Dutto1 » 11 Jul 2011, 21:14

I am surprised David Irving has decided to release an biography of Himmler,it will without a doubt have is own mark on it.I remember years ago reading Hitler's War,in it he claimed that Hitler was ignorant of the Holocaust.It will be interesting to see his take on Himmler.

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Post by J. Duncan » 11 Jul 2011, 21:59

I suspect it will be similar to the Goebbels book in that Himmler was the real murderer of the Jews, Hitler knew nothing about what Himmler was really up to, and can't be blamed for the excesses of his associates. Himmler did all of this butchering of Jews on his own initiative and Hitler was kept in ignorance of the whole bloody affair.

Irving has given clues to this viewpoint in his interviews where he has said that Hitler actually and expressly told Himmler not to harm a trainload of Jews from Berlin. Can't remember the details but if i find the clip of video where he states this I'll post it.

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Post by redcoat » 11 Jul 2011, 23:20

It has been proven in a court of law that Irving is a holocaust denier, an anti-Semite, and a racist, and that he also manipulates the historical record to make it conform with his political beliefs.

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Post by J. Duncan » 11 Jul 2011, 23:37

:lol: You can view many threads on the controversy surrounding Mr. David Irving.


*That does not keep establishment historians from using his work when it suits their purposes to do so.

Hate him if you must, but the man keeps churning out the books and people keep buying them despite all outrage and condemnation. I'm looking forward to viewing it and taking from it what I want.

Irving is still free to write and I'm still free to read. :P
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Post by krichter33 » 11 Jul 2011, 23:54

Say what you want about Irving, but his Rommel biography was really brilliant.

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