Radioes used in bunkers

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Radioes used in bunkers

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Post by leif-tore » 06 Oct 2014, 22:03

Hello

Can anyone tell me what type of radioes were normally used in bunkers? Any specific models?
Were there used different types in different bunkertypes?

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Post by Funksammler » 22 Oct 2014, 10:10

The same radio's were used in bunkers as were used in the field. The type of radio depended on the role of the occupants of the bunker, and would follow the types used in the field. So for example, infantry command would use the Torn.Fu.d2, heavy weapons units might use the Torn.Fu.b1, artillery would use the Torn.Fu.f/k. The "Festungsantenne" installation was designed to work with all these types. At the lower echelon, the infantry often used the Feldfu.b.

Bear in mind the the primary means of communication would typically be telephone lines, the radios were there as a backup in case the lines failed.

Radios used in fixed installation were often marked "Bodenständig" and they were issued without their carrying straps etc. Sometimes, older types of radio like the Torn.fu.h were re-issued in static roles. The germans also develeped a small "Festungsnotsender" for use in the Westwal, these emergency transmitters were later also used in the Atlantic wall. The "Festungsnotsender" was probably the only type specifically developed for use in bunker systems.

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Post by kstdk » 22 Oct 2014, 13:11

Hello

Interesting answer, thanks for this informative reply.

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Post by leif-tore » 22 Oct 2014, 19:32

Thanks for this information, Funksammler.

The specific bunker I am thinking about, is a Regelbau 608, which was the commandbunker for the local airport.
We are planning to put a T38 a Si Fernschreiber in the Fernschreiber-room, and some kind of radio in the radio-room.

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Post by SES » 23 Oct 2014, 07:59

Hi Leif-Tore.
If you by that mean the Flg.Hrst. Gef.Std. it would have some or all of the functions described in the attached drawings. And the coms equipment would be corresponding to that. For ground to air communication there would be a FuG10 and a FuG16.
http://www.wehrtechnikmuseum.de/Exponat ... fug10.html
http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/archiv/ ... FuG16Z.pdf

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Post by Funksammler » 23 Oct 2014, 10:49

Indeed, these sorts of specialist bunkers would have a specialist communications setup. Usually the command bunkers did not contain long range transmission equipment, to avoid the enemy detection. The transmitters would be remotely operated and would be placed some kilometres away from the from the command centre and linked by telephone line. There may have been receivers in the Bunker, the reference to "Stabantennen" on the drawing suggests that these were VHF radios to communicate with the FuG 16.

I do not know if your bunker serviced bombers, fighters or nightfighters, this would also determine the sort of communication equipment used. You would need to find an original LDv specifying how such a command centre was equipped to be sure what exactly was used.

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Post by leif-tore » 23 Oct 2014, 21:59

Hello SES and Funksammler

The bunker is a Regelbau 608, Battalions oder Regimentsgefechtsstand, eingeschossig.
It has the normal four antennaniches, with the 947S6 antennaverschlusskopf, used for the festungsantenna.
Would this small antenna be enough to handle the bigger and more powerful radioes?

I have no information if there was direct communication between this bunker and the airplanes.

A few hundred meters from this bunker there was a big antenna mast, with a small cabin beside it, which probably contained some radioequipment.

Maybe the radioequipment in this cabin was controlled from this bunker?
And the bunker itself only had smaller, less powerful radioes?

Is this a possible explanation?

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Post by SES » 24 Oct 2014, 07:13

Hi Leif-Tore,
That sounds consistent with the description by Funksamler and with my experience from Grove. In the 608 there are the remote controls. The actual radios and antenna are some distance away. And if it was the operations bunker of the airfield, it did communicate with aircraft. At Grove there is a 608, which was used as commandpost for the local defence, could that also be the function of your 608?
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Post by Funksammler » 26 Oct 2014, 09:36

The Festungsantenne was designed to operate with the relatively low powered standard Shortwave and VHF equipment such as the Torn.Fu.d2 and Torn.Fu.b1. The short range Feldfu.b could also be connected. So the Festungsantennen we purely for local tactical use in case the Bunker system was under attack.

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Post by dahusband » 26 Nov 2014, 06:03

Dear friends, I'm looking for information on the types, pictures if possible, of radio communication used by the Axis in the Mareth Line, Tunisia 1942-43.

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Post by Funksammler » 01 Dec 2014, 00:06

Wasn't it manned mainly by Italian troops?

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