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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby fireindi64 on 19 Feb 2012 04:15

Hi Clive
Thank you for your opinion!
I think so too. Mostly of the people asked for the main stream: Tiger ,Panter ,Sd Kfz 250,Kettenkrad, Kübel,Schwimmmwagen and so on. But the REAL interessting fields are for me equipement and trailers of the Wehrmacht

Per Example. aske someone about power units in the Wehrmacht. You get answer about schwerer Maschinensatz on SdAh 24 and a schwerer Maschinensatz on Trailer Sd Ah 104/204 but there are many different Power units and the real designation ????

Do you notice the dark grey soldier in the background? I think he had a RAD sign of the left arm above the triangle.

Whats your opinion about this?

best regards

Henning

Ok one simple question because my english is very simple :oops: :oops: :oops:
Whats the different between engineers and pioneers???

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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Clive Mortimore on 19 Feb 2012 09:10

fireindi64 wrote:Hi Clive
Thank you for your opinion!
I think so too. Mostly of the people asked for the main stream: Tiger ,Panter ,Sd Kfz 250,Kettenkrad, Kübel,Schwimmmwagen and so on. But the REAL interessting fields are for me equipement and trailers of the Wehrmacht

Per Example. aske someone about power units in the Wehrmacht. You get answer about schwerer Maschinensatz on SdAh 24 and a schwerer Maschinensatz on Trailer Sd Ah 104/204 but there are many different Power units and the real designation ????

Do you notice the dark grey soldier in the background? I think he had a RAD sign of the left arm above the triangle.

Whats your opinion about this?

best regards

Henning

Ok one simple question because my english is very simple :oops: :oops: :oops:
Whats the different between engineers and pioneers???


Hi Henning

The man in the rear of the photo has his rank and trade badges on his sleeve. The rank chevron looks like that of a Gefreiter (corporal). The trade badge is far too small to see what it is.

There is very little difference between Pioneers and Engineers. Which term is used to describe the troops depended on the army or the language as to which name was given, as they all undertook the same type construction and destruction duties. Just to add to the confusion the British Indian Army called many of its engineering units Sappers and Miners.

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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Eireneutral on 24 Feb 2012 20:05

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I think the equipment item in the first photo of this thread is similar to this item, which is used to measure levels, it can be detached and placed on a tripod
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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Eireneutral on 24 Feb 2012 20:08

This is it in the case, i recently picked this up at a market it has the Buhler stamped on it so any information, from anyone, will be much appreciated, i can put up more photos if needed?
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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Sturm78 on 13 Mar 2012 14:35

Hi all,

T.Mine. 35

Image from Ebay
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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby fireindi64 on 14 Mar 2012 18:06

Clive Mortimore wrote:
fireindi64 wrote:ok, next unknown equipement :wink:

for me it looks like a portable air compressor.

whats your opinion?

best regards
Henning

and what is it for a unit? RAD or engineer?


Hi Henning

I agree with you about the equipment being an air compressor.
I think the unit is a Pioneer unit. The soldier in the full uniform does not appear to have a different colour of piping on his shoulder strap, indicating a very dark colour. The Pioneers wore black Waffenfarbe which in a black and white photo does not show up against the dark green of the shoulder strap.

It is a pity that there is not much on the equipment used by engineers and pioneers by all the armies of WW2. Photos of the bridges they built etc. seem to dominate their recorded work.

Clive



Hi Clive

I think I found a other pic from the same type air compressor. Looks like the other site.

Best regards
Henning
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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Clive Mortimore on 15 Mar 2012 22:10

fireindi64 wrote:

Hi Clive

I think I found a other pic from the same type air compressor. Looks like the other site.

Best regards
Henning


Cheers Henning

Nice find.

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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby peeved on 02 May 2012 21:04

A light signaling device from exp. eBay.de.

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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby fireindi64 on 03 May 2012 11:33

Hi Markus,

Here a exp. Ebay.de too :wink: It was sold in april 2012 for 190,20 EUR
I think its the same like your picture.

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Henning
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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby fireindi64 on 03 May 2012 11:35

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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Globbitz on 09 May 2012 11:25

Eireneutral wrote:
001 (Small).JPG
I think the equipment item in the first photo of this thread is similar to this item, which is used to measure levels, it can be detached and placed on a tripod


Hello Eireneutral,
Your surveying level and it's carrying-case is identical in design to those made by WILD in Switzerland.
Best regards,
Paul

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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Clive Mortimore on 10 May 2012 19:40

Globbitz wrote:
Hello Eireneutral,
Your surveying level and it's carrying-case is identical in design to those made by WILD in Switzerland.
Best regards,
Paul


Hi Paul

Was the surveying level used by the pioneer units when map making or by the artilley when positionng the guns, or by both?

Yours

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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Globbitz on 12 May 2012 20:59

Hello Clive,

A level would be insufficient for both purposes as you'd need both vertical / inclined angle as well as horizontal / azimuth (and optionally a compass or other alignment) for both purposes that you've suggested. You'd need a Theodolite (or a lightweight military version called a Richtkreis) for artillery purposes. In the case of map-making a plane-table along with a simple alidade or sighting ruler would be used, but a theodolite / Richtkreis could also be used (depends how quickly, or how accurately you want to achieve the task).

A level is an instrument for construction that will allow the height of a plot of land, or the course of a proposed road or railway to be acertained by using it in conjunction with a vertical staff. Through the level's telescope you'd read-off the height marking on the staff, and determine the land's height at that point relative to that of the level. The limitation to progress using a level is the staff's height of around 4-metres, and the number of times you want to move the instrument in order to survey an area, plus of course access to all areas to be surveyed.

I'd expect that any military detachment that would be involved with the construction of fortifications, buildings, roads, railways (or even water courses) would use levels such as this if it's from that period. But as to whether they used Wild, or others of German manufacture I don't know. Use the Wild-Heerbrugg site to determine the age of your level from its serial number - http://www.wild-heerbrugg.com/Level_overview.htm and also http://www.wild-heerbrugg.com/howold.htm

Ta ta for now,
Paul

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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Clive Mortimore on 12 May 2012 22:09

Cheers Paul
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Re: I need help to Id. german equipment

Postby Eireneutral on 17 Jun 2012 21:08

Globbitz wrote:
Eireneutral wrote:
001 (Small).JPG
I think the equipment item in the first photo of this thread is similar to this item, which is used to measure levels, it can be detached and placed on a tripod


Hello Eireneutral,
Your surveying level and it's carrying-case is identical in design to those made by WILD in Switzerland.
Best regards,
Paul



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