Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Oct 2013, 00:04

Bert wrote
in the book "Deutsche Pioniere im Einsatz 1939 - 1945" by Horst Riebenstahl I could find a pic of a truck transporting the K-Gerät.
Thank you, Bert

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by SIS 5 » 31 Oct 2013, 17:20

Hi Clive,

here another captured bridge building material:the Polish CMPS (ciezki most polowy saperski), a pontoon bridge for 16 tons.
Source of the pic: Waffen-Arsenal Sonderband S - 41 "Kriegsbrückengerät der Wehrmacht" by Horst Beiersdorf. The caption to the pic: "Krementschug railway bridge after the blowing-up. Underneath our pontoon bridge."

To Your question about the numbers for bridge building material: all German weapons, vehicles and eqipment got number. The basis for that was the classification of all pieces of equipment ("Stoffgliederung des Heeresgeräts") from 1931. Later, in 1936, it got the term ""Gerätlistenmappe" (list file of equipment). There are different fields of material (Stoffgebiet): for example "Stoffgebiet 2" for machine guns, "Stoffgebiet 5" for guns, and so on. Every piece got a special number, a full designation and a short designation: for example the captured French heavy machine gun got the numer 1006, the full designation "8 mm schweres Maschinengewehr 257 (f)", short designation "8 mm s MG 257 (f)". I only know that there was the "Stoffgebiet 28" for "Brückengerät" (bridge building material). Unfortunately I couldn´t find more about these lists till now.

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 01 Nov 2013, 23:52

Hi Bert

Thank you again. It is nice to know there was "Stoffgebiet 28", may be one day a copy will appear. Bridges are not as sexy as guns or tanks :)

I have the Waffen Arsenal book, and did not realise that the photo was of Polish equipment.

Thanks

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Nov 2013, 13:14

Hi all,

An image from EBay: I think a Gross Floßsäckle 34 rubber raft and a pontoon ferry (of B material)

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German Gross Floßsäckle 34 rubber raft and pontoon ferry (of B material) of Pioniere Eis. Pio. Batl. 68.jpg

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by SIS 5 » 22 Nov 2013, 15:59

Hi Sturm 78,

thanks for posting this interesting pic. It is a pontoon ferry of bridge building material type "B" for 8 tons and on this ferry is a field pile-driving frame 1939, in German Feldrammgerüst, used for pile driving in the construction of improvised bridges up to 24 tons capacity. It is carried in trucks in the light engineer column and in bridging column "B". On Your pic the two-drum hand winch is good to see, which serves to raise and lower the pile driver.

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Nov 2013, 16:28

Thank you for the aditional information, Bert.

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Nov 2013, 11:33

Hi all,

Another image from EBay
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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Nov 2013, 13:56

Hi all,

Another image from EBay: building a pontoon bridge

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by SIS 5 » 29 Nov 2013, 19:47

Hi all,

here a coloured pic of a ferry made out of bridge building material B. (source of the pic: an expired ebay auction).

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by fireindi64 » 30 Nov 2013, 13:30

Hello all

you know this is not my special thema but also interessting ;-)
Is here any knowledge about following ferries? I found it in E-bay. The location looks a little bit like Norway???

Is this german pioneer equipement or capured?

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 01 Dec 2013, 00:01

fireindi64 wrote:Hello all

you know this is not my special thema but also interessting ;-)
Is here any knowledge about following ferries? I found it in E-bay. The location looks a little bit like Norway???

Is this german pioneer equipement or capured?

best regards
Henning
Hi Henning

I am not an expert on German landing craft but the ones in the photos look like Kriegsmarine Marinefährprähme http://historisches-marinearchiv.de/pro ... eibung.php

The Pioneers had their own landing craft Landungsboot
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... boot39.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... boot40.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... boot41.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... boot43.htm

There were also the Siebelfähre
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... faehre.htm

and the Pionierlandungsfähre
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... faehre.htm

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Sturm78 » 04 Dec 2013, 13:54

Hi all,

Another image from EBay:

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German pontoon ferry with a SdKfz 7 and artillery.jpg

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Sturm78 » 07 Dec 2013, 11:18

Hi all,

Two images of bridge material A of Reichswehr.
I think there was some variety in the pontoons of bridge material A, according to the photos I've seen

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German pontoon ferry of bridge material A of Reichswehr with an Adler armoured car mockup-.jpg
German pontoon ferry of bridge material A of Reichswehr with an Adler armoured car mockup.jpg

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Sturm78 » 11 Dec 2013, 18:04

Hi all,

Not an assault boat but-...... :roll: I think a aircraft emergency inflatable rubber raft
Does somebody the German designation of these rafts?

Image from EBay
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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Post by Sturm78 » 13 Dec 2013, 16:50

Nobody for may last image ?? :(

Well, here another image from EBay of a German pontoon bridge. I am not sure about the bridge material model :?

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German Pionier pontoon bridge in France being crossed by a Büssing-NAG bus.jpg

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