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Dog Tag Identification

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Dog Tag Identification

Postby sqnldr on 16 Feb 2013 18:21

I have been going through further items in my collection and came across my two dog tags which i have had many years. I am only having the chance to look into them now. I need some help in identifying what the numbers mean.

The first dog tag is quite dark (burnt?) or just tarnished. The translation of the numbers is:

4. / J. R. 4 5 8

150

There is also an 'o' in the top right corner which i assume is blood group.

The second dog tag is silver coloured and the translation of the numbers is:

STB. II / JR. 162.

77.

There is also an 'o' in the bottom left which i assume is the blood group.

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Re: Dog Tag Identification

Postby trbooks on 16 Feb 2013 18:56

4. / J. R. 4 5 8 - 4. Kompanie, Jäger Regiment 458

STB. II / JR. 162 - II Battalion, Jäger Regiment 162

Thats all I know not sure what the STB is
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Re: Dog Tag Identification

Postby sqnldr on 16 Feb 2013 20:45

Thanks very much for your prompt reply! Do you happen to know where I can find out the actions of these regiments during ww2 ? (Assuming these tags are actually ww2 and not ww1??)

Thanks
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Re: Dog Tag Identification

Postby Martinski on 16 Feb 2013 22:40

Sorry - not correct! The dog tag reads:

4. / J. R. 4 5 8 - which means: 4.th Company / Infantry Regt. 458

150 - the individual's number and O : his blood group.

The second dog tag reads:

STB. II / JR. 162. = Stab 2nd Bataillon / Infantry Regt. 162

77 - the individual's number and O : his blood group.

Note that on the dog tags and on some documents the letter "J" is used instead of the 'I' in order to avoid mistakes with the roman cyphers as used for the Batailon level. So "JR" reads here Infantry Regiment.

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Re: Dog Tag Identification

Postby trbooks on 16 Feb 2013 23:36

Ok. I learnt something too.
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Re: Dog Tag Identification

Postby sqnldr on 09 Mar 2013 22:21

Is there anywhere on the Internet I can find out information about these units and battles they took part in? I had a look but couldn't find much. Appreciate any help.
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Re: Dog Tag Identification

Postby John G. on 10 Mar 2013 04:43

Search the Axis History Factbook....it's all there.
Quick research:

Inf. Regt. 458/258th Inf. Div. (1939-1943)- formed 1939 (Prussian Reservists), served in Saar region during French Campaign, Invasion of Russia Army Group Center- drive on Moscow, defensive battles, transfered to AG South, defensive battles/destroyed on West Bend of the Dnieper Oct/Nov. 1943 (Remnants only) Disbanded

Inf. Regt. 162/61st Inf. Div. (39-44) 61st VGD (44/45)- formed Ost Prussia 1939. Invasion of Poland/Seige of Warsaw, Belgium 1940; Army Group North Invasion of Russia/Drive thru Baltic, Siege of Leningrad, 2nd Battle Lake Ladoga, retreat from Leningrad thru Baltic, Transfered to AG Center- Retreat thru Poland, ended war cut off in Ost Prussia 1945.

Hope this helps...
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