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Counterpoint ( 1968 ).
Boring and boring....
Boring and boring....
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Desparte Journet {1942}
after seeing Flynn and hale in Advetures of Robin Hood {excellent} and Raymond Massy in Abe Lincoln in Illinois {beleivable} ..comes to "Desperate Journey...Pathatic...Comic Book story.....just change the Nazi Uniforms/Europe to Japanese Uniforms/Asia....got another movie for the Home Front!! Gestapo Officer Raymond Massy wears a German ARmy Unform......
after seeing Flynn and hale in Advetures of Robin Hood {excellent} and Raymond Massy in Abe Lincoln in Illinois {beleivable} ..comes to "Desperate Journey...Pathatic...Comic Book story.....just change the Nazi Uniforms/Europe to Japanese Uniforms/Asia....got another movie for the Home Front!! Gestapo Officer Raymond Massy wears a German ARmy Unform......
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Was in this in this film where appears one Himmler's order that says :Desperate Journey {1942}
"The prisoners will be guillotined face up" ??
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How about "Despartly they Live" a 1943 John Garfield movie in which at least 4 U Boat models are sunk by aircraft which changed from RAF Bombers to Fighters to Dombers! ALso the falling bombs sequence keep getting repeated!... Never have so many toy model Uboats been sunk in a ....bathtub?
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I agree the plot of Saving Private Ryan was silly, tear-jerking sentimentality and rife with the Tom Brokaw "Greatest Generation" crap, but it had its moments and is decently acted. I don't think calling it shat is quit fair. I also don't get the "American superheroes" argument as more Americans die in the film I'm guessing than Germans do...JAG13 wrote:SPR was a sh!t sandwich, a piece of crap sandwiched between the two of the best battle sequences in history.Phaing wrote:Well, we certainly can't have a movie that makes American's look good, can we? Might be accused of being racists or something.AJFFM wrote:In terms of plot, Saving Private Ryan. Great realism (probably the most realist of all WWII films) but American superheroes ride again!
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You know, looking at this list, I have to wonder, has a GOOD war movie ever been made? By anyone?
Ever?
Besides A Bridge to Far, I mean.
My vote for the worst; Inglorious Basterds. They should have known better.
Most USian movies are not too far from GI Joe, the cartoon that is.
GI Joe...AJFFM wrote:
Don't take it personally dude, all what I demanded is realism and American war films are notorious for have a lone gunman (Rambo) or a cut off rifle squad mowing down crack* X enemy divisions as if they were on a Turkey shoot as the American saying goes.
...this is what most US movies look like:
Best movie ever btw...
The problem with the film is it overreaches and the writer is sort of a sappy douche that tends to piss all over the history he writes screen plays for in order to conjure a romantic image that is tantamount to propaganda. (i.e. Braveheart)...
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Or this:JAG13 wrote:...
...this is what most US movies look like:
Best movie ever btw...
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Maybe calling the movie shit is a bit much, but it was a massive let down after an amazing start that let me feeling like there were 2 movies, a war one and crappy soap opera shoved in between. Somewhere else I called Fury the anti-SPR, that movie was its polar opposite, a great war drama with some of the shittiest battle sequences in history!Nickdfresh wrote:I agree the plot of Saving Private Ryan was silly, tear-jerking sentimentality and rife with the Tom Brokaw "Greatest Generation" crap, but it had its moments and is decently acted. I don't think calling it shat is quit fair. I also don't get the "American superheroes" argument as more Americans die in the film I'm guessing than Germans do...
The problem with the film is it overreaches and the writer is sort of a sappy douche that tends to piss all over the history he writes screen plays for in order to conjure a romantic image that is tantamount to propaganda. (i.e. Braveheart)...
Movies like that were the ones I was referring to with the GI Joe comment, the legion of shitty movies with lemming enemies...
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No I'm kidding, it is actually one of the best war movies. Very funny.
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I get a kick out of posts that say this movie from 1940 something sucks or is the worst movie ever. Think about when the movie was made and it's purpose.
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Okay, so American movies are just terrible because they make the Heroes look too good. Or too good at killing the bad guys.
So, who does a better job?
Are Italian movies better? More dignified and realistic?
How about Russian ones? To be realistic, most of the people who die would have to be Russians. So.... must be true, right?
I'm sure the Chinese would never run up too high a body count, "lemmings", isn't that the term? (in fact, China Uncensored reported that the number of Japanese Chars in WW2 killed every year is getting close to a 6-digit number)
The British would NEVER make their heroes look good at the expense of others, now would they?
Come ON, you guys must have a country in mind that does a consistently better job than the US with their War Movies when it comes to believability, understated Characters, spot-on realism of everything in the movie, and an enjoyable movie-going experience.
Remember, since you guys opened up the entire genre', its not about individual movies anymore, but the entire production run of our respective nations.
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So, who does a better job?
Are Italian movies better? More dignified and realistic?
How about Russian ones? To be realistic, most of the people who die would have to be Russians. So.... must be true, right?
I'm sure the Chinese would never run up too high a body count, "lemmings", isn't that the term? (in fact, China Uncensored reported that the number of Japanese Chars in WW2 killed every year is getting close to a 6-digit number)
The British would NEVER make their heroes look good at the expense of others, now would they?
Come ON, you guys must have a country in mind that does a consistently better job than the US with their War Movies when it comes to believability, understated Characters, spot-on realism of everything in the movie, and an enjoyable movie-going experience.
Remember, since you guys opened up the entire genre', its not about individual movies anymore, but the entire production run of our respective nations.
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I think the Finns have a pretty good record of realistic war movies. As for enjoyable movie-going experience, that's subjective, as some prefer drama, others action, and still others realism.
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Lol! That is too easy, German movies, go watch them.Phaing wrote:Okay, so American movies are just terrible because they make the Heroes look too good. Or too good at killing the bad guys.
So, who does a better job?
Are Italian movies better? More dignified and realistic?
How about Russian ones? To be realistic, most of the people who die would have to be Russians. So.... must be true, right?
I'm sure the Chinese would never run up too high a body count, "lemmings", isn't that the term? (in fact, China Uncensored reported that the number of Japanese Chars in WW2 killed every year is getting close to a 6-digit number)
The British would NEVER make their heroes look good at the expense of others, now would they?
Come ON, you guys must have a country in mind that does a consistently better job than the US with their War Movies when it comes to believability, understated Characters, spot-on realism of everything in the movie, and an enjoyable movie-going experience.
Remember, since you guys opened up the entire genre', its not about individual movies anymore, but the entire production run of our respective nations.
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Stalingrad directed by Fedor Bondarchuk. You have to be totally unaware of the historical facts if you even remotely like this movie. This is not a movie about Stalingrad at all! Russian soldiers appeared as cartoon superheroes... This should've been an epic historical movie about the famous battle.
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I agree. That movie was a huge disappointment. Great sets and plenty of resources, but a story which - like so many other newer Russian war movies - was totally pulled out of the ass.Trevor Philips wrote:Stalingrad directed by Fedor Bondarchuk. You have to be totally unaware of the historical facts if you even remotely like this movie. This is not a movie about Stalingrad at all! Russian soldiers appeared as cartoon superheroes... This should've been an epic historical movie about the famous battle.
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This was post war...but how a bout "The Magic Face"
It was made 1951 stariing Jewish actor Luther Adler as Hitler valet...who kills him..takes his place...and ruins the German War effort!
Sounds suspiciously similar to "The Great Dictator"...The only problem with Chaplin movie is that it came out too late....1939...it would have had perhaps a better impact in 1931-1932
PS Adller also played Hitler in a Movie about Rommel the Desert Fox...and also in a 1960
comic relef episode "Man in a Bottle" as foolish pawnbroker who wastes the third of his last 4 genie wishes and ends up as Hitler about to commit suicide...[UGH]
It was made 1951 stariing Jewish actor Luther Adler as Hitler valet...who kills him..takes his place...and ruins the German War effort!
Sounds suspiciously similar to "The Great Dictator"...The only problem with Chaplin movie is that it came out too late....1939...it would have had perhaps a better impact in 1931-1932
PS Adller also played Hitler in a Movie about Rommel the Desert Fox...and also in a 1960
comic relef episode "Man in a Bottle" as foolish pawnbroker who wastes the third of his last 4 genie wishes and ends up as Hitler about to commit suicide...[UGH]