How historically accurate was Saving Private Ryan?
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Re: How historically accurate was Saving Private Ryan?
"plus change" not "plus jake"
It means it was more than fifty. Fifty and change, like in pocket change.
It means it was more than fifty. Fifty and change, like in pocket change.
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was not a cut on Spielberg...but the whole pretext for saving Ryan was Marshalls heart felt letter to his generals in the movie and was the bases or plot to save Ryan and prevent another Mrs. Bixby type action..without the gather of Marshall to place the order and the reasoning for sending a platoon/group to find Ryan the story on why he needed to be saved makes no sense in the story...omit the Mrs. Bixby scene and it makes looking for Ryan and the reason/cause of the movie to fail/fallChristopherPerrien wrote:That he or "they" would use one by Lincoln is easy , because a Civil war story had alot to do with the idea behind SPR . Plus the "dramatic effect" is quite notable. The originator (Robert Rodat) of the story or others the may have looked at thousands of letters of condolence attritbuted to Lincoln for this one script scene. The developement of the story /script for SPR was a "group effort" and was much revised, way before Spielberg directed it.
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ChrisIn 1994, Robert Rodat saw a monument in Putney Corners, New Hampshire, dedicated to eight brothers who died during the American Civil War. Inspired by the story, Rodat did some research and decided to write a similar story set in World War II. Rodat's script was submitted to producer Mark Gordon, who liked the story but only accepted the text after 11 redrafts. Gordon shared the finished script with Hanks, who liked it and in turn passed it along to Spielberg to direct. A shooting date was set for June 27, 1997
Re: How historically accurate was Saving Private Ryan?
The other day, I could see "SURVIVING D-DAY", a good documentary about Omaha beach,
and some questions came to my mind.
The motion picture "Saving Private Ryan" is showing 2nd Rangers companies disembarking in "Dog Green" sector.
But really they must be in "Charlie" sector, to climb Pointe du Hoc. ( According plans of D-Day operations)
I don't remember seeing Capt. Miller and his men with climbing equipment.
Why Spielberg did chose Rangers troops and not ( 116th Reg. ) Company A men, for make main characters of the film ?
Perhaps, he only wanted to sell many M1 helmets with orange diamonds on rear ?
It always puzzles me.
and some questions came to my mind.
The motion picture "Saving Private Ryan" is showing 2nd Rangers companies disembarking in "Dog Green" sector.
But really they must be in "Charlie" sector, to climb Pointe du Hoc. ( According plans of D-Day operations)
I don't remember seeing Capt. Miller and his men with climbing equipment.
Why Spielberg did chose Rangers troops and not ( 116th Reg. ) Company A men, for make main characters of the film ?
Perhaps, he only wanted to sell many M1 helmets with orange diamonds on rear ?
It always puzzles me.
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Re: How historically accurate was Saving Private Ryan?
The 2nd Ranger Battalion was temporarily attached to the 116th Regiment, 29th Infantry Division, so SPR is accurate in this aspect, at least.
Re: How historically accurate was Saving Private Ryan?
There always appears to be some confusion about the Rangers on D-Day. The Provisional Ranger Group consisted of the 2nd and 5th Ranger Battalions, organized as Assault Group O-4 in three task forces, A, B, and C.von thoma wrote:The other day, I could see "SURVIVING D-DAY", a good documentary about Omaha beach,
and some questions came to my mind.
The motion picture "Saving Private Ryan" is showing 2nd Rangers companies disembarking in "Dog Green" sector.
But really they must be in "Charlie" sector, to climb Pointe du Hoc. ( According plans of D-Day operations).
Ranger Force A consisted of Co D, E, F and HQ Det, 2nd Ranger Bn
Ranger Force B consisted of Co C, 2nd Ranger Bn
Ranger Force C consisted of Co A and B, 2nd Ranger Battalion and the 5th Ranger Bn
Ranger Force A's objective was Pointe du Hoc
Ranger Force B's objective was DOG GREEN
Ranger Force C's objective was to either reinforce Force A or Force B on orders
As it turned out, Force B landed in the center of CHARLIE and Force C landed with the two companies of 2nd Bn on the right in the left section of DOG GREEN and astride the boundary between DOG GREEN and DOG WHITE. The 5th Bn landed a few minutes later on the left section of DOG WHITE.
Re: How historically accurate was Saving Private Ryan?
Good explanations.
Many thanks !
Many thanks !
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Re: How historically accurate was Saving Private Ryan?
And,
Would allow a jewish Rabbi cutting challah bread, using a Hitlerjugend
knife, to private Mellish in Sabbath ceremony ? .........................
Would allow a jewish Rabbi cutting challah bread, using a Hitlerjugend
knife, to private Mellish in Sabbath ceremony ? .........................
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Re: How historically accurate was Saving Private Ryan?
Would a officer as Captain Miller wear a trench shovel on his back ?
Was really included in the U.S officer's equipment ?
Was really included in the U.S officer's equipment ?
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Who else would carry his entrenching tool? His batman or servant?von thoma wrote:Would a officer as Captain Miller wear a trench shovel on his back ?
Was really included in the U.S officer's equipment ?
The whole premise of the plot is daft. Even in its dumber moments the US Army did not send out patrols for this type of mission. Finding a missing soldier serving with a particular formation is a G1 job best handled by the G1 staff down to battalion. When Ryna had been found he needed to be told that his brothers were all dead. This was a job for the padre not some Ranger captain from a different unit. Was administration and man management that bad in the 101st?