Hello,
Time for a Hint:
There was 3 "Kingdoms"; 2 "Archdukes"; 6 "Duchies"; 1 "Margravate" and 1"Princely Country".
Can anyone name any of them? (except for the one below mentioned above!)
Regards Robb
The official AHF Austria-Hungary quiz thread
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The "Kingdoms and Lands" of the Cisleithanian half of the Empire
Land Capital (Inhabitants) Area in km² Inhabitants
Kingdom of Bohemia Prague (224,000) 51,948 6,769,000
Kingdom of Dalmatia Zadar (14,000) 12,833 646,000
Kingdom of Galicia
and Lodomeria Lviv (Lemberg) (206,000) 78,493 8,025,000
Archduchy of Lower
Austria Vienna (2,031,000) 19,822 3,532,000
Archduchy of Upper
Austria Linz (71,000) 11,981 853,000
Duchy of Bukowina Czernowitz (87,000) 10,442 800,000
Duchy of Carinthia Klagenfurt (29,000) 10,327 396,000
Duchy of Carniola Ljubljana (Laibach) (47,000) 9,955 526,000
Duchy of Salzburg Salzburg (36,000) 7,153 215,000
Duchy of (Austrian)
Silesia Opava (Troppau) (31,000) 5,147 757,000
Duchy of Styria Graz (152,000) 22,426 1,444,000
Margravate of
Moravia Brno (Brünn) (126,000) 22,222 2,622,000
Princely County
of Tyrol Innsbruck (53,000) 26,683 946,000
Austrian Littoral
Küstenland Trieste (161,000) 7,969 895,000
Vorarlberg Bregenz (9,000) 2,601 145,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria_Hungary
Regards Robb (Glenn would you like to post next?)[/url]
Still no takers?
The "Kingdoms and Lands" of the Cisleithanian half of the Empire
Land Capital (Inhabitants) Area in km² Inhabitants
Kingdom of Bohemia Prague (224,000) 51,948 6,769,000
Kingdom of Dalmatia Zadar (14,000) 12,833 646,000
Kingdom of Galicia
and Lodomeria Lviv (Lemberg) (206,000) 78,493 8,025,000
Archduchy of Lower
Austria Vienna (2,031,000) 19,822 3,532,000
Archduchy of Upper
Austria Linz (71,000) 11,981 853,000
Duchy of Bukowina Czernowitz (87,000) 10,442 800,000
Duchy of Carinthia Klagenfurt (29,000) 10,327 396,000
Duchy of Carniola Ljubljana (Laibach) (47,000) 9,955 526,000
Duchy of Salzburg Salzburg (36,000) 7,153 215,000
Duchy of (Austrian)
Silesia Opava (Troppau) (31,000) 5,147 757,000
Duchy of Styria Graz (152,000) 22,426 1,444,000
Margravate of
Moravia Brno (Brünn) (126,000) 22,222 2,622,000
Princely County
of Tyrol Innsbruck (53,000) 26,683 946,000
Austrian Littoral
Küstenland Trieste (161,000) 7,969 895,000
Vorarlberg Bregenz (9,000) 2,601 145,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria_Hungary
Regards Robb (Glenn would you like to post next?)[/url]
The Third Kingdom
I beg leave to clear the air on your list of Austria's royal divisions. It is true that Dalmatia was ranked a kingdom but in the listing of royal titles attached to the person of the Emperor, the third kingdom was in fact Illyria, which technically did not exist as a bureaucratic entity. It officially existed on paper as the union of Carinthia and Carniola, and between 1815 and 1833, at that.
I believe the reason had to do with the former French department of the same name, between 1809 and 1814, which also included Dalmatia in addition to the above named crownlands.
Anyway, the King of Illyria persists as a title of the Austrian Emperor.
Furthermore, Kuestenland was not a crownland as much as an administrative unit. It formally divided into several lesser crownlands, consisting of the princely Goerz and Gradiska, free city of Trieste, and Istria, itself broken in two parts, princely (Fuerstentum) Istria and county (Grafschaft) Istria.
I cannot say which part is which, but the division was based on the old Austrian-Venetian frontier of 1797, after which time Istria was separated from Venice. I'll venture to say that Princely Istria was the western coast and the islands of Veglia, Cherso, and their dependencies.
Now then, what was the last quiz question?
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I believe the reason had to do with the former French department of the same name, between 1809 and 1814, which also included Dalmatia in addition to the above named crownlands.
Anyway, the King of Illyria persists as a title of the Austrian Emperor.
Furthermore, Kuestenland was not a crownland as much as an administrative unit. It formally divided into several lesser crownlands, consisting of the princely Goerz and Gradiska, free city of Trieste, and Istria, itself broken in two parts, princely (Fuerstentum) Istria and county (Grafschaft) Istria.
I cannot say which part is which, but the division was based on the old Austrian-Venetian frontier of 1797, after which time Istria was separated from Venice. I'll venture to say that Princely Istria was the western coast and the islands of Veglia, Cherso, and their dependencies.
Now then, what was the last quiz question?
G
Hi VeldesX,
Thanks for the information you added - appreciated
The question in the quiz was "The Dual Alliance was created on what date; between which countries; and against which country was it directed?"
Hint: One of the countries involved was obviously Austria-Hungary and was with a recently united country (at the time the Alliance was made)
Regards Robb
Thanks for the information you added - appreciated
The question in the quiz was "The Dual Alliance was created on what date; between which countries; and against which country was it directed?"
Hint: One of the countries involved was obviously Austria-Hungary and was with a recently united country (at the time the Alliance was made)
Regards Robb
According to the text of the Alliance, reproduced below, the participants were Austria-Hungary and Germany, against Russia, signed in Vienna on 7 October 1879.
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ARTICLE 1. Should, contrary to their hope, and against the loyal desire of the two High Contracting Parties, one of the two Empires be attacked by Russia the High Contracting Parties are bound to come to the assistance one of the other with the whole war strength of their Empires, and accordingly only to conclude peace together and upon mutual agreement.
ARTICLE 2. Should one of the High Contracting Parties be attacked by another Power, the other High Contracting Party binds itself hereby, not only not to support the aggressor against its high Ally, but to observe at least a benevolent neutral attitude towards its fellow Contracting Party.
Should, however, the attacking party in such a case be supported by Russia, either by an active cooperation or by military measures which constitute a menace to the Party attacked, then the obligation stipulated in Article 1 of this Treaty, for reciprocal assistance with the whole fighting force, becomes equally operative, and the conduct of the war by the two High Contracting Parties shall in this case also be in common until the conclusion of a common peace.
ARTICLE 3. The duration of this Treaty shall be provisionally fixed at five years from the day of ratification. One year before the expiration of this period the two High Contracting Parties shall consult together concerning the question whether the conditions serving as the basis of the Treaty still prevail, and reach an agreement in regard to the further continuance or possible modification of certain details. If in the course of the first month of the last year of the Treaty no invitation has been received from either side to open these negotiations, the Treaty shall be considered as renewed for a further period of three years.
ARTICLE 4. This Treaty shall, in conformity with its peaceful character, and to avoid any misinterpretation, be kept secret by the two High Contracting Parties, and only communicated to a third Power upon a joint understanding between the two Parties, and according to the terms of a special Agreement.
The two High Contracting Parties venture to hope, after the sentiments expressed by the Emperor Alexander at the meeting at Alexandrovo, that the armaments of Russia will not in reality prove to be menacing to them, and have on that account no reason for making a communication at present; should, however, this hope, contrary to their expectations, prove to be erroneous, the two High Contracting Parties would consider it their loyal obligation to let the Emperor Alexander know, at least confidentially, that they must consider an attack on either of them as directed against both.
ARTICLE 5. This Treaty shall derive its validity from the approbation of the two Exalted Sovereigns and shall be ratified within fourteen days after this approbation has been granted by Their Most Exalted Majesties. In witness whereof the Plenipotentiaries have signed this Treaty with their own hands and affixed their arms.
Done at Vienna, October 7, 1879
(L.S.) ANDRASSY
(L.S.) H. VII v. REUSS
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ARTICLE 1. Should, contrary to their hope, and against the loyal desire of the two High Contracting Parties, one of the two Empires be attacked by Russia the High Contracting Parties are bound to come to the assistance one of the other with the whole war strength of their Empires, and accordingly only to conclude peace together and upon mutual agreement.
ARTICLE 2. Should one of the High Contracting Parties be attacked by another Power, the other High Contracting Party binds itself hereby, not only not to support the aggressor against its high Ally, but to observe at least a benevolent neutral attitude towards its fellow Contracting Party.
Should, however, the attacking party in such a case be supported by Russia, either by an active cooperation or by military measures which constitute a menace to the Party attacked, then the obligation stipulated in Article 1 of this Treaty, for reciprocal assistance with the whole fighting force, becomes equally operative, and the conduct of the war by the two High Contracting Parties shall in this case also be in common until the conclusion of a common peace.
ARTICLE 3. The duration of this Treaty shall be provisionally fixed at five years from the day of ratification. One year before the expiration of this period the two High Contracting Parties shall consult together concerning the question whether the conditions serving as the basis of the Treaty still prevail, and reach an agreement in regard to the further continuance or possible modification of certain details. If in the course of the first month of the last year of the Treaty no invitation has been received from either side to open these negotiations, the Treaty shall be considered as renewed for a further period of three years.
ARTICLE 4. This Treaty shall, in conformity with its peaceful character, and to avoid any misinterpretation, be kept secret by the two High Contracting Parties, and only communicated to a third Power upon a joint understanding between the two Parties, and according to the terms of a special Agreement.
The two High Contracting Parties venture to hope, after the sentiments expressed by the Emperor Alexander at the meeting at Alexandrovo, that the armaments of Russia will not in reality prove to be menacing to them, and have on that account no reason for making a communication at present; should, however, this hope, contrary to their expectations, prove to be erroneous, the two High Contracting Parties would consider it their loyal obligation to let the Emperor Alexander know, at least confidentially, that they must consider an attack on either of them as directed against both.
ARTICLE 5. This Treaty shall derive its validity from the approbation of the two Exalted Sovereigns and shall be ratified within fourteen days after this approbation has been granted by Their Most Exalted Majesties. In witness whereof the Plenipotentiaries have signed this Treaty with their own hands and affixed their arms.
Done at Vienna, October 7, 1879
(L.S.) ANDRASSY
(L.S.) H. VII v. REUSS
Wrapping up the strange subdivisions of the Cis-Leithania
Robb wrote:Hi VeldesX,
Thanks for the information you added - appreciated
Regards Robb
Now that I've looked at the list of crownlands, it reminds me of several more oddities in the relationship between the different subdivisions of the Cisleithania.
Vorarlberg is on your listed without a royal distinction, but I believe it was ranked a principality. It was, however, a dependency of Tirol until 1919. Bregenz tried to break away from German Austria and join Switzerland, but first it had to declare independence from Tirol!
Silesia is rightly listed as a Duchy, but it was a dependency of Moravia, a lesser-ranked Margravate. This was because during the War of the Austrian Succession in 1740-1741, Austria's Silesia was reduced from twelve to two principalites: Troppau and Teschen. The Austrian Emperor retained the superior title "Duke of Silesia." For a long time, Austrian Silesia's administration was merged with Moravia, and the two remained united in several fashions until 1919.
Galicia-Lodomeria's westernmost territory, the principality of Auschwitz-Biala, was represented in the German Bund from 1818 until its dissolution in 1866. Doesn't seem to have been a separate administrative area; the royal title persists in the Emperor's retinue long after the end of the Empire.
Nothing unusual about Bukovina, except that it was a dependency of Galicia from its annexation until 1849, when it was made a completely separate crownland.
Anyway...
G
An ancient port
All right, lets keep up the geography lesson:
This ancient port, part of Austria, was claimed by Italy, shelled by the Italian navy, then all claims abandoned after a deal was made over a hotly contested former port of Hungary.
Not much detail, I know. But then, the list of suitable candidates is relatively short...
G
This ancient port, part of Austria, was claimed by Italy, shelled by the Italian navy, then all claims abandoned after a deal was made over a hotly contested former port of Hungary.
Not much detail, I know. But then, the list of suitable candidates is relatively short...
G
No, Pola was annexed outright by Italy without contest. The Jugo-Slav government had already agreed not to take issue with Istria's loss to the Italians.
The port I'm looking for was the Third in a rallying cry for irridentia. Poets like d'Annunzio and nationalists in general usually listed three Adriatic ports that needed to be "redeemed" to Italy. In the event, this port was the only one not redeemed.
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The port I'm looking for was the Third in a rallying cry for irridentia. Poets like d'Annunzio and nationalists in general usually listed three Adriatic ports that needed to be "redeemed" to Italy. In the event, this port was the only one not redeemed.
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Robb wrote:Hi VeldesX,
Would it be Fiume (now Rijeka in Croatia)?
Regards Robb
Getting closer, but not quite. Fiume was "redeemed" in the deal between Italy and Jugoslavia I mentioned earlier, though the southern third of the city, Susak, remained part of Jugoslavia.
Anyway, the port I'm looking for was still part of Jugoslavia. In 1941, Italy finally annexed it to the Kingdom with the collapse of Jugoslavia.
G
Ok, time for the biggest hint of them all! This port has always been well known among tourists for its Roman ruins.Getting closer, but not quite. Fiume was "redeemed" in the deal between Italy and Jugoslavia I mentioned earlier, though the southern third of the city, Susak, remained part of Jugoslavia.
Anyway, the port I'm looking for was still part of Jugoslavia. In 1941, Italy finally annexed it to the Kingdom with the collapse of Jugoslavia.
G