Italian Army

[gregdon]

Thanks HFK for Luigi Zuccari that guy has bugged me for quite a while, I knew he commanded the VI Corps in 1911-1913 but nothing else after that. As for General Gobbo I am wondering if this is really General Gabba. Do you have anything on a General Gabba?


my best
Greg

[gregdon]

Bde MT assignments at start of War
1st (Excelles) 2nd (Fenestrelle) 3rd (Alessandria) 4th (Savona) 5th (Piacenzia) 6th (Genova) 7th (Ancona) 8th (Verona) 9th (Bologna) 10th (Venezia) 11th (LaSpezia) 12th (Roma) 13th (Napoli) 14th (Taranto) 15th (Brindisi) 16th (LaMaddalena) 17th (Messena) 18th (ReggioCalabria). Where they went after the war started you may know, I do not. In 1916 a 19th Bde MT and a 20th Bde MT where formed and sent to Albania. Also the MT help form the various fortress commands along the French and Austrian Borders but I do not know the battalion composition of these units or of the brigades themselves.

Further in 1916 MT formed the basis for regiments 201 thru 232 which of course formed new Brigades for the active army at the front. I hope this helps somewhat Martin.

my best
Greg

[territoriale]

Greg,

My thanks - the MT info has filled a gap in my research - incidentally do you have a reference for the MT providing the basis for the 201- 232 reggimenti? I've come across it only in the Osprey book on the Italian Army.

Martin

[AJK]

Hi Greg,

Some more specific dates for Zuccari: 13 Sep 1847 - 24 Dec 1925
As for Gabba, there was a post-WWI Generale comandante designato d'armata (July 1936) Melchiade GABBA (20 Aug 1874 - 17 Nov 1952), but I very seriously doubt that he was a General already in WWI. Further information about him can be found at:

http://notes9.senato.it/Web/senregno.NS ... enDocument
and at
http://www.generals.dk/general/Gabba/Me ... Italy.html

Regards,

AJK

[mmn]

Greg,
From per comm the 219sele brigata in 1918 supplied arditi to torino which I think was the 1st assault group that HEMINGWAY WAS ASSIGNED TO.)
mmn

[Perry]

Additional infos about general Zuccari:

LieutGen (Army) Luigi Zuccari never commanded 3rd Army in war, he was removed from the command by general Cadorna a few days before the 24th of may (1915) and replaced by The Duke of Aosta, cousin of the king. The duke had a car accident reaching his new command, and was temporarily (until the 28th of may) replaced by LieutGen Vincenzo Garioni, commander of the VII Army Corps. It left the 3rd army without a real commander in the first days of the war, leading to the letargic advance on this part of the front (the outskirts of the austrian Carso lines, a few km from the frontier, were reached only in june)


For the Brigades commander, but also for the regimental and battalion ones, there is a series of books edited by the Army Headquarter in the twenties, called simply "Brigate di Fanteria". It's similar to the "Grandi Unità" series, about armies, corps and divisions.


Perry

[gregdon]

Thanks Perry for the info ----about the brigade commanders well I cannot find the book you mentioned. Do you have anymore information or suggestions on where I could get my hands on such data.



Regards

Greg

[fara]

Hi,
I am a living relative of General Gustavo Fara, I have a copy of his military record and some detailed history about him if anyone is interested.

[AJK]

After a couple of years, I have finally tracked down some info on General Gobbo:

Tenente Generale Gaetano GOBBO (20 Dec 1840 - ?)
1900 - ?: Commander, Alessandria Division
1903 - 1909 Commanding General, V. (Verona) Army Corps

I guess patience IS a virtue!

Best wishes,

AJK

[mregina]

hello i just came across this forum on the italian war, battle of caporetto.
I recently came across a photo of my paternal grandfather and im eager to know where i can obtain his military records. I know from the picture there are some clues, such as a number 93 on his hat, he also has two 5 pointed stars on his collar. i was told that those meant he was a liutenant of some sort. Is there any way i can find out more details on my grandfather?

from my small research i could find out that he was part of the 93rd infantry regiment of the messina brigade. I know he was born in 1896 in the town of castel di lucio which is in the province of messina,

any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you and i will try to upload a picture.

sincerely mike regina,
charlotte, nc

[Loïc]

hello

the five-pointed stars is not at all a rank but part of the usual Italian Army mostrine Infantry Brigade
distinctive collar insignia of the Brigades with in last place the Brigata Messina (93°& 94°Infantry Regiment) in colours


Regards
Loïc

[waldo88]

See here for a detailed OOB fro the Italian Army as of 24 May 1915:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_F ... rld_War_I)

wp

[mregina]

thank you for the help thus far, the colors are indeed another discovery for me at least and all of his decendants. we knew nothing about him and we are slowly but surely discovering more and more every day. My main goal is to have the Military Records of my grandfathers, paternal and maternal. I have found a link online from family search which i believe is some kind of military record of some sort, after opening the link it has a lot of records and it would take me a long time to find the records im after, if you want the link let me know ill be happy to post it here, any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you and have a great day.

[johnny1958]

I know this thread is old, but does anyone have a list of the Italian Army Corps Commanders in the first world war? Many thanks.

[AJK]

Here is a list of WWI Corps commanders (it may not be complete):

WWI INFANTRY CORPS COMMANDERS

I Corps
Ottavio Ragni (May 1914-July 1915)
Settimio Piacentini (July 1915-March 1916)
Luigi Segato (March 1916-May 1917)
Gaetano Giardino (May-June 1917)
Settimio Piacentini (June 1917-October 1918)
Donato Etna (October-November 1918)

II Corps
Ezio Reisoli (May 1914-September 1915)
Vincenzo Garioni (September 1915-May 1917)
Pietro Badoglio (May-August 1917)
Luca Montuori (August-October 1917)
Alberico Albricci (October 1917-November 1918)

III Corps
Vittorio Camerana (May 1914-November 1918)

IV Corps
Mario Nicolis Di Robilant (May 1914-September 1915)
Giulio Tassoni (September 1915-November 1916)
Alberto Cavaciocchi (November 1916-October 1917)
Asclepia Gandolfo (October-November 1917 when corps disbanded)

V Corps
Florenzio Aliprindi (May 1914-June 1915)
Gaetano Zoppi (June 1915-June 1916)
Emilio Bertotti (June-December 1916)
Luigi Capello (December 1916-March 1917)
Gaetano Zoppi (March-December 1917)
Giovanni Ghersi (December 1917-November 1918)

VI Corps
Carlo Ruelle (May 1914-August 1915)
Vincenzo Garioni (August-September 1915)
Luigi Capello (September 1915-September 1916)
Gaetano Zoppi (September 1916-March 1917)
Francesco Dabala’ (March-April 1917)
Antonio Gatti (April-September 1917)
Stefano Lombardi (September 1917-November 1918)

VII Corps
Vincenzo Garioni (May 1914-August 1915)
Guglielmo Pecori-Giraldi (August 1915-May 1916)
Adolfo Tettoni (May 1916-October 1917)
Luigi Bongiovanni (October-November 1917)
Giovanni Ghersi (November 1917 when corps disbanded)

VIII Corps
Ottavio Briccola (May 1914-June 1916)
Paolo Ruggeri-Laderchi (June-December 1916)
Evaristo Mossolin (December 1916-February 1917)
Alverto Cavaciocchi (February-March 1917)
Carlo Carignani (March-July 1917)
Armano Ricci-Armani (July-September 1917)
Francesco Saverio Grazioli ((September-November 1917)
Enrico Caviglia (November 1917-March 1918)
Asclepia Gandolfo (March-October 1918)
Francesco Saverio Grazioli (October-November 1918)
Pier Luigi Sagramoso (November 1918)

IX Corps
Pietro Marini (May 1914-June 1915)
Luigi Segato (June-October 1915)
Oscar Roffi (November 1915-July 1916)
Adolfo Marchetti (July 1916-February 1917)
Paolo Ruggeri-Laderchi (February 1917-March 1918)
Donato Etna (7-21 March 1918)
Emilio De Bono (March-November 1918)

X Corps
Domenico Grandi (May 1914-December 1916)
Guglielmo Marghieri (December 1916-April 1917)
Edoardo Ravazza (April-June 1917)
Paolo Morrone (June-October 1917)
Carlo Bloise (October 1917)
Emilio Sailer (October 1917-February 1918)
Enrico Caviglia (March-June 1918)
Giovanni Cattaneo (June-November 1918)

XI Corps
Giorgio Cigliana (May 1914-May 1917)
Carlo Petitti di Roreto (May-October 1917)
Giuseppe Pennella (October 1917-January 1918)
Giuseppe Paolini (January-November 1918)

XII Corps
Luigi Segato (May 1914-June 1915)
Clemente Lequio (June 1915-November 1916)
Giulio Tassoni (November 1916-February 1918)
Giovanni Cattaneo (February-June 1918)
Giuseppe Pennella (July-November 1918)

XIII Corps
Gateano Zoppi (May 1914-July 1915)
Cleto Angelotti (July 1915-January 1916)
Giuseppe Ciancio (January 1916-June 1917)
Emilio Sailer (June-September 1917)
Ugo Sani (September 1917-November 1918)

XIV Corps
Paolo Morrone (May 1914-April 1916)
Edoardo Coardi di Carpenetto (April-June 1916)
Evaristo Mossolin (June-December 1916)
Domenico Grandi (December 1916-March 1917)
Adolfo Marchetti (March-April 1917)
Pier Luigi Sagramoso (April 1917-November 1918)
Conte Carlo Petitti di Roreto (November 1918)

XVI Corps
Settimio Piacentini (March-June 1916)
Oreste Bandini (June-December 1916)
Giacinto Ferrero (December 1916-November 1918)

XVIII Corps
Donato Etna (April 1916-October 1917)
Adolfo Tettoni (October-December 1917)
Giacomo Ponzio (December 1917-March 1918)
Luigi Basso (March-November 1918)

XX Corps
Ettore Mambretti (May-June 1916)
Luca Montuori (June 1916-September 1917)
Giuseppe Francesco Ferrari (September 1917-November 1918)

XXII Corps
Evaristo Mossolin (May-June 1916)
Gaetano Zoppi (June-September 1916)
Luigi Capello (September-December 1916)
Luciano Secco (December 1916-March 1917)
Ettore Negri di Lamporo (March-July 1917)
Giuseppe Francesco Ferrari (July-September 1917)
Stefano Lombardi (September 1917)
Antonio Gatti (September-December 1917)
Arcangelo Scotti (December 1917-March 1918)
Giuseppe Vaccari (April-November 1918)

XXIII Corps
Armando Diaz (April-November 1917)
Conte Carlo Petitti di Roreto (November 1917-September 1918)
Donato Etna (September 1918)
Conte Carlo Petitti di Roreto (September-November 1918)
Emilio Sailer (November 1918)

XXIV Corps
Luciano Secco (May-December 1916)
Interim commander (December 1916-March 1917)
Antonio Gatti (March-April 1917)
Vittorio De Albertis (May-July 1917)
Enrico Caviglia (July-November 1917 when corps was disbanded)

XXV Corps
Interim commander (April-May 1917)
Gaetano Giardino (June 1917)
Edoardo Ravazza (June 1917-November 1918)

XXVI Corps
Luca Montuori (May-June 1916)
Alberto Cavaciocchi (June-November 1916)
Clemente Lequio (November 1916-April 1917)
Augusto Fabbri (April 1917-March 1918)
Vittorio Alfieri (April-November 1918)
Asclepia Gandolfo (November 1918)

XXVII Corps
Augusto Vanzo (July-August 1917)
Pietro Badoglio (August-November 1917)
Antonino Di Giorgio (November 1917-November 1918)

XXVIII Corps
Alberico Albricci (August-October 1917)
Alessandro Saporiti (October-November 1917)
Giovanni Croce (November 1917-November 1918)

XXIX Corps
Armano Ricci Armani (December 1916-July 1917)
Vittorio di Albertis (July 1917-November 1918)

XXX Corps
Ettore Negri di Lamporo (July-October 1917)
Donato Etna (October 1917-June 1918)
Umberto Montanari (June-November 1918)

Special Assault Corps
Francesco Saverio Grazioli (June-November 1918)

Special Corps “Di Giorgio”
Antonino Di Giorgio (October-November 1918)

Cavalry Corps
Vittorio Emanuele di Savoia-Aosta, Conte di Torino (May 1915-November 1918)

Czech Corps
Luigi Piccione (from 16 November 1918) before was the Czech Division.

AJK