U 34 sinking of spanish C3 /op ursula

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U 34 sinking of spanish C3 /op ursula

Postby Xavier » 07 Dec 2004 19:12

I just found out that supposedly, on dec 12. 19, 1936, the german submarine U 34 sank the spanish republican submarine C3 off malaga, as part of operation "Ursula"

in spanish: http://www.memoriahistorica.org/alojado ... l#historia

what other units were part of this operation?
is this confirmed on the german archives?

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Postby Kurt_Steiner » 09 Dec 2004 11:53

U 34, in 1936, took a supervisory part in the German Operation Ursula in Spanish waters during the Civil War there. The boat, then under the command of Kptlt. Harald Grosse, probably sank the Spanish submarine C-3 on 12 Dec, 1936 but no concrete proof has yet been unearthed.


from http://uboat.net/boats/u34.htm

Bearing in mind that Franco's navy had no subs, it could only be a foreign sub. Or an accident.

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Postby Xavier » 02 Apr 2005 17:29

new article about operation ursula!!! (march 2005)

(very detailed, long reading, but worth): http://uboat.net/articles/index.html?article=59

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Re: U 34 sinking of spanish C3 /op ursula

Postby tigre » 31 Jul 2016 18:25

Hello to all :D; a little complement........................

U 34 in Unternehmen Ursula.

U 34 was a German U boat Type VII A, which served with the U bootwaffe in the Kriegsmarine.

The order for the boat was allocated on March 25, 1935 at the Germania shipyard in Kiel. The keel was laid on September 15, 1935, the launch took place on July 17, 1936 being commisioned under Kplt. Ernst Sobe on September 12, 1936.

The boat was within the framework of the U-Flotilla "Saltzwedel" in Wilhelmshaven as combat ready/front boat. She carried out two secret operations in the Spanish Civil War (Ursula Nov/Dec 1936 and Jagdausflug Jun/Jul 1937) and sank the Spanish Submarine C-3 under Kplt. Harald Grosse on December 12, 1936 (Ursula). From April 1937 to May 1937 she fulfilled maritime surveillance off the Azores and from October 1937 to December 1937 in Spanish and Portuguese waters.

The U boat carried out diving and convoy exercises from April to May 1939 in the Atlantic between Portugal and the Azores.

Sources: KTB U-Bootwaffe. 1923 - 1938. Das Kriegstagebuch der U-Bootwaffe von Roland Berr. http://ktb.ubootwaffe.net/
http://www.ebay.at/itm/BUYMUC-Foto-Legi ... SwMNxXYBOZ.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/orig-Reklame-Ger ... 1587150352

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Re: U 34 sinking of spanish C3 /op ursula

Postby tigre » 14 Aug 2016 03:37

Hello to all :D; U 34 also took part in another covert operation........................

Operation "Jagdausflug" (hunting trip).

AFAIK German submarines conducted two covert operations during the civil war, one of them was the well-known Operation Ursula (November/December 1936) and the other Operation Jagdausflug (June / July 1937). In the latter period they were present in Spanish waters the U 28; U 33; U 34 and U 35 and to my knowledge the first three took part in the operation.

This operation took place because on June 15, 1937 a new incident had exacerbated the Germans minds; this time off the coast of Algeria, 25 nautical miles north of Oran, the German light cruiser "Leipzig" was attacked with four torpedoes, but all missed the target. In protest Germany and Italy decided to withdraw temporarily from the international naval patrolling. For the Kriegsmarine the case was clear: Konteradmiral von Fischel, at that time serving as the local naval commander, prepared a new secret action with the submarines. Operating in three areas in the Mediterranean where German submarines were not allowed to stop, before Cartagena and on the Algerian coast, they should sink all "red" submarines. Before crossing the Strait of Gibraltar the U 28, U 33 and U 34 received a coat of paint on their numerals and signs of neutrality. In this operation, Fischel wanted to try the new electric torpedoes, but for unknown reasons the OKM did not approve the plan. The operation took place until mid-July of that year and of course they did not find any "red" submarines.

Sources: http://www.zeit.de/1991/49/piraten-vor-malaga/seite-8
http://huelvabuenasnoticias.com/2014/10 ... rra-civil/

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Re: U 34 sinking of spanish C3 /op ursula

Postby tigre » 27 Aug 2016 15:45

Hello to all :D; something more........................

German U Boats in Spanish waters in 1937-1939.

Sources: http://www.ebay.at/itm/BUYMUC-Foto-Legi ... 58dd4ce7fe

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