Taranto / Pearl Harbor
Taranto / Pearl Harbor
It has been said that the British raid on Taranto had an influence on the subsequent IJN attack on Pearl Harbor.
My question is what would have been the effect on IJN plans had the British raid failed?
My question is what would have been the effect on IJN plans had the British raid failed?
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Re: Taranto / Pearl Harbor
I think Harry Yarnell's 1932 Fleet Problem 13 had more influence
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Re: Taranto / Pearl Harbor
Ya
mamoto would have tried to figure how to do it right
mamoto would have tried to figure how to do it right
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What about the 1937 Fleet Problem?LineDoggie wrote:I think Harry Yarnell's 1932 Fleet Problem 13 had more influence
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Yamamoto didn't plan the raid. He ordered the planning done and signed off on it.steverodgers801 wrote:Ya
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Re: Taranto / Pearl Harbor
Yamamoto's idea, but detailed planning left to others. However, it was most certainly his idea, and he had to fight against some opposition to get it done. He turned over more detailed planning work to RADM Onishi (CofS of 11th Kokukantai) who then contacted Genda Minoru (this was around Feb. 1941.) Genda's affadavit after the war recorded that he read the letter from Y. to Onishi giving the orders for this planning...Yet even by April '41 when things were beginning to firm up, there was no specific date set or details for the air attacks on Shinjuwan (Pearl Harbor) in place.
Kusaka Ryunosuke later tried to claim he'd thought of it as early as 1928, but this is debatable. (As a survivor of 1st AF/Kido Butai he tended to give himself a good deal of credit for many things during the war.)
Y's Japanese biographer Agawa--a far-from-solid source--wrote that Y. may have been thinking of it as early as the spring of 1940 well before the Tripartite Pact, but that is not certain either. Nonetheless, what is clear is that Y's attack idea was beginning to percolate through IJN channels (w/a rather remarkable lack of security) by the beginning of 1941.
Kusaka Ryunosuke later tried to claim he'd thought of it as early as 1928, but this is debatable. (As a survivor of 1st AF/Kido Butai he tended to give himself a good deal of credit for many things during the war.)
Y's Japanese biographer Agawa--a far-from-solid source--wrote that Y. may have been thinking of it as early as the spring of 1940 well before the Tripartite Pact, but that is not certain either. Nonetheless, what is clear is that Y's attack idea was beginning to percolate through IJN channels (w/a rather remarkable lack of security) by the beginning of 1941.
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Concept to Yamamoto, planning to Genda, bragging to Fuchida.
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cstunts, can you give us the kanji for Shinjuwan, please?
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Great. Now what's a good type to allow me to copy that?cstunts wrote:真珠湾