Taranto / Pearl Harbor

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Taranto / Pearl Harbor

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Post by Kingfish » 17 Oct 2016, 14:42

It has been said that the British raid on Taranto had an influence on the subsequent IJN attack on Pearl Harbor.

My question is what would have been the effect on IJN plans had the British raid failed?
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Post by LineDoggie » 17 Oct 2016, 15:31

I think Harry Yarnell's 1932 Fleet Problem 13 had more influence
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Post by steverodgers801 » 17 Oct 2016, 22:11

Ya
mamoto would have tried to figure how to do it right

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Post by OpanaPointer » 18 Oct 2016, 00:07

LineDoggie wrote:I think Harry Yarnell's 1932 Fleet Problem 13 had more influence
What about the 1937 Fleet Problem?
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Post by OpanaPointer » 18 Oct 2016, 00:08

steverodgers801 wrote:Ya
mamoto would have tried to figure how to do it right
Yamamoto didn't plan the raid. He ordered the planning done and signed off on it.
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Post by cstunts » 19 Oct 2016, 16:57

Yamamoto's idea, but detailed planning left to others. However, it was most certainly his idea, and he had to fight against some opposition to get it done. He turned over more detailed planning work to RADM Onishi (CofS of 11th Kokukantai) who then contacted Genda Minoru (this was around Feb. 1941.) Genda's affadavit after the war recorded that he read the letter from Y. to Onishi giving the orders for this planning...Yet even by April '41 when things were beginning to firm up, there was no specific date set or details for the air attacks on Shinjuwan (Pearl Harbor) in place.

Kusaka Ryunosuke later tried to claim he'd thought of it as early as 1928, but this is debatable. (As a survivor of 1st AF/Kido Butai he tended to give himself a good deal of credit for many things during the war.)

Y's Japanese biographer Agawa--a far-from-solid source--wrote that Y. may have been thinking of it as early as the spring of 1940 well before the Tripartite Pact, but that is not certain either. Nonetheless, what is clear is that Y's attack idea was beginning to percolate through IJN channels (w/a rather remarkable lack of security) by the beginning of 1941.

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Post by OpanaPointer » 19 Oct 2016, 18:25

Concept to Yamamoto, planning to Genda, bragging to Fuchida.
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Post by OpanaPointer » 19 Oct 2016, 18:27

cstunts, can you give us the kanji for Shinjuwan, please?
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Post by cstunts » 19 Oct 2016, 20:36

真珠湾

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Post by OpanaPointer » 19 Oct 2016, 22:20

cstunts wrote:真珠湾
Great. Now what's a good type to allow me to copy that?
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