Art wrote:And here are Soviet data mentioned from the report submitted by Pokrovsky and Bagramyan on 2 October 1941:
As of 1.09.1941 the complete personnel strength was:
5 Army - 93 412 men
21 Army - 106 831
26 Army - 85 456
37 Army - 113 718
Units subordinated to the Front HQ - 53 303
Total - 452 720
Losses in the first days of September would decrease those figures somewhat especially for the 5 and 21 Armies. Pay attention to a very small number of remaining tanks (64). In addition four railroad engineer brigades had some 12500 men on 1.09.1941. There were apparently some losses suffered by air force, SOS, replacement and construction units, patients in hospitals etc. of the South-West Fronts, yet the report makes no mention of them. The conclusion is that we have a bracket of total losses in the pocket from 450 (Pokrovsky) to 510 (KTB OKW) thousands men.
Hi, Art, some sources like wiki also includes 38th Army in the list of encirclement of Kiev, was 38th Army were also destroyed in this battle ? Or not included in battle of Kiev ?
And I rarely find any casualty list of Soviet commanders in battle of Kiev, In battle of Uman, I know 2 Army commanders, 4 Corps commanders and 11 divisional commanders were captured but regarding Kiev battle, hardly find that. ( What I know is Front commander was killed and commander of 5th Army was captured in Kiev.) Any data on that available ?