What did ordinary people know about nuclear weapon prior Hiroshima?

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Re: What did ordinary people know about nuclear weapon prior Hiroshima?

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Re: What did ordinary people know about nuclear weapon prior Hiroshima?

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Post by wm » 23 Dec 2014, 20:08

And I was going to ask, where's Globalization41, when you need him :)

Who was the one of the most eminent English scientists in "Earth as a Bomb"? His predictions were quite accurate.
"Then consider the possibilities of war. The first nation to discover the secret will be in a position to wipe out all the other nations literally, in a quarter of an hour. It could send over an aeroplane with a 2000 lb. bomb, which would be as devastating an effect as that at a million aeroplanes caring the 2000 lb bombs in use today.[...]

The question is, which will that nation be? America is busy endowing vast laboratories. Germany, even before the war, had the great Kaiser Wilhelm Laboratory near Berlin. But when it comes to granting even £50,900 to Oxford or Cambridge University, the Royal Commission, after two w hole years, has barely been able to induce the Government to consider the possibility.
Interestingly, he mentions Einstein frequently, but Einstein (and for example Rutherford) didn't believe releasing latent energy of atoms was possible. Before the discovery of nuclear chain reactions it was a reasonable position.


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Re: What did ordinary people know about nuclear weapon prior Hiroshima?

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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 10 Jan 2015, 02:51

One of the things influencing general public attention would be the 'failed sciences'. Perhaps sciences is the wrong word her, but the 18th, 19th & early 20th Centuries had seen many new marvels of natural philosophy or science prove to be dead ends or otherwise false. This atomic radium stuff might have something to it, or it might be another theory of dry land framing, or Ectoplasam. So, who knows where that science stuff in the newspaper or on the radio might go.

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Re: What did ordinary people know about nuclear weapon prior Hiroshima?

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Post by Globalization41 » 10 Jan 2015, 03:33

There seemed to be very few articles on atomic theory during WWII. If one read their local newspaper and subscribed to a couple of magazines, they might not have seen anything on atomic energy prior to Hiroshima. ... Stalin knew of the Atomic Bomb project, but he didn't take it seriously until it was proven to work.

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Re: What did ordinary people know about nuclear weapon prior Hiroshima?

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Post by wm » 10 Jan 2015, 23:46

In the US any references to uranium and atomic energy were censored during the war.
But for example the people investigated by the FBI because of their connection with the Cartmill affair, did claim that material in Deadline was common knowledge.

The atomic theories, even quantum mechanics certainly weren't seen as failed sciences, ectoplasm or another N-rays. It was well understood they represented spectacular breakthrough in science. And because of that in the thirties they were taught as fact in schools/universities.

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Re: What did ordinary people know about nuclear weapon prior Hiroshima?

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Post by phylo_roadking » 14 Jan 2015, 21:47

Globalization41 wrote:There seemed to be very few articles on atomic theory during WWII. If one read their local newspaper and subscribed to a couple of magazines, they might not have seen anything on atomic energy prior to Hiroshima. ... Stalin knew of the Atomic Bomb project, but he didn't take it seriously until it was proven to work.

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In Germany, Heisenberg and Hahn and others did still produce a few research papers; the Allies maintained an active intelligence programme getting hold of these via Switzerland. Before December 1941 the British end of this reported to the legendary MAUD Committee, with its joint responsibility of monitoring what the Germans were doing as well as pushing slowly forward on research on a british Bomb....more along the lines of testing out what they heard from the Germans to see if it could possibly work :P In the U.S., the American intelligence program that developed to do exactly the same also reported to Gen. Leslie Groves...and filtered via him to the MANHATTAN scientists for consideration if necessary. It was the U.S. intelligence program that carried out the Moe Berg operation...
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