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Birthdate vs Deathdate

Postby Georg on 06 Nov 2009 11:35

Hello again,

A long week is coming to it´s end, and I have been doeing some really fun research this week, and hopefully
I will get some nice info next week. But until then I really need birthdate and if possible deathdate of following
SS-TV officers (that means that they didn´t have to serve in a camp after 16 oct. 1939)

DoB:
Carl Weiss (+ DoD)
Ernst Wagner (+ DoD)
Rudolf Wahl (+ DoD)
Eduard Weber (+ DoD)
Dr Hermann Welser (+ DoD)

DoD
Georg Wolf
Dr Helmuth Wolf
Leopold Wolfmeyer
Sebastian Wimmer
Hans Weibrecht
Dr Heinz Wertschützky
Johann Vogl
Josef Wameser

Thanks in advance

Georg

Ps. I have checked the Volksbund
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Re: Herbert Krause

Postby Mikedc on 07 Nov 2009 13:43

Fred wrote:

Krause, Herbert
Born: 09.09.1909 in Aachen
Waffen-Geb.Brig.(tart.1): 08.1944
Kaukasischer Waffenverband der SS: 01.1945
For the 01.1945 date, John P. Moore’s "Führerliste" has Ostturk.Waffenverb. The SS-Personalveränderungsblatt dated 30.01.1945 has Kaukasischer Waffenverband der SS.



I don't know for sure of course because I'm now expert but I've found info that the Waffen-Geb.-Brig.der SS(tatar Nr. 1) became SS-Waffengruppe 'Krim' at a certain time and in 12-44 this unit was transfered to the Osttürkischer Waffen-Verband der SS and as far as I can tell this was a total different unit then the Kaukasischer Waffen-Verband der SS. So I think the info from J. Moore is correct....

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Confirmation

Postby Georg on 08 Nov 2009 14:47

Hello,

I wonder if someone can help me with following officer.

SS-Ostuf Kurt Hermann
Served at TV Oberbayern in 37 (SS-DAL)
Born: 2.5.06
SS-Nr: 27978
NSDAP: 44951 (Early member) most probably holder of the Goldene Partei Abz,
SS-Ostuf on 20.4.37

In Moores Casualitylist you have a SS-Ostuf Hermann KIA between 18-20/10, 1941 as Fhr over the
2./SS-T.I.R.1

Is this the same man as I have in "Oberbayern"?

Can someone give me exakt deathdate of him, and if probably the town in which he was born.
If someone also knows his exakt service at the Oberbayern it would be much appriciated. Help with what he did between Oberbayern and his service at SS-T.I.R.1 is also welcome, he didn´t serve at Oberbayern in Nov. 38 when he doesn´t appear on the Führerstellungsbesetzung over that Standarte then.

Best regards,
Georg

Ps. Noone who can help me with my previous post?
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Re: SS-Totenkopfverbände Officers

Postby freddiefro on 08 Nov 2009 15:55

Georg wrote:I really need birthdate and if possible deathdate of following
SS-TV officers (that means that they didn´t have to serve in a camp after 16 oct. 1939)
DoB:
Carl Weiss (+ DoD)
Ernst Wagner (+ DoD)
Rudolf Wahl (+ DoD)
Eduard Weber (+ DoD)
Dr Hermann Welser (+ DoD)

Hello Georg,
SS-Hstuf. Carl Weiß (SS Nr.: 292 537) - geb. 15.03.1907 in München
SS-Hstuf. Ernst Wagner (SS Nr.: 286 899) - geb. 19.09.1916 in Angerod / Alsfeld
SS-Stubaf. Eduard Weber (SS Nr.: 276 414) - geb. 16.07.1911 in Krems / Donau
SS-Ostubaf. Dr Hermann Welser (SS Nr.: 270 334) - geb. 03.10.1890 in Salzburg

Georg wrote:I wonder if someone can help me with following officer.
SS-Ostuf Kurt Hermann
Served at TV Oberbayern in 37 (SS-DAL)
Born: 2.5.06

I'm afraid you have mis-read Kurt Hermann's the name in the 1937 SS-DAL. It reads Kurt Heymann (geb. 02.05.1906). His NSDAP Nr. was 44 951 and SS Nr. was 278 978 (not 27 978) and he served with 1.SS-T.V.Oberbayern. He doesn't appear in any SS-DAL before or after 01.12.1937. There is a Kurt Herrmann in that SS-DAL, but he wasn't an SS-T.V. officer (he was with 60.SS-Standarte); geb. 14.11.1910, SS Nr.: 52 312.
Georg wrote:In Moores Casualitylist you have a SS-Ostuf Hermann KIA between 18-20/10, 1941 as Fhr over the
2./SS-T.I.R.1

SS-Obersturmführer Alexander Herrmann (geb. 21.08.1916; SS Nr. 122 211) was the officer KIA 20.10.1941 (he was Chef,2./T.I.R.1).

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