SS-Obersturmführer ID

[jrutman53]

anyone know who this officer is? If the British caption is true, the pic was taken on 27 June near Cheux during Operation Epsom. If that is the case then these guys should be from 12. SS-Pionier-Btl. or I./SS-Art.Rgt. 12? It looks like the officer surrendered with his plt sgt and remaining troops or 1sgt and remaining company?

Tia

[jrutman53]

Any takers? There is also a possibility that these guys or maybe some of them are from 15/25 PzGren Regt as they held a portion of the line near Cheux.
J

[Ste]

- If he was from the 15./25 I think that he could be Untersturmführer Fehling, but I don't know if he was taken prisoner;
- If he came from the Pio.Abt. he could be Obersturmführer Kuret who became POW on 26.6.44;
- If he came from the III/26 he could be Untersturmführer Buse who became POW on 26.6.44;

By now I don't remember others names.Can't tell you nothing about the Art.Rgt.

[jrutman53]

Thanks Ste!! I was starting to think that no one knew any info about this. I am pretty sure that,although the picture is damaged,that this guy is an Oberstrurm. The nearest 12SS unit to Cheux on 26June was the Pioneer Abt. Operation Epsom was very hard on the German lines that day but the Pioneer Abt suffered the most and was almost wiped out. These factors lead me to think that this guy would be ObSturm. Kuret as he fits the known facts.
Of course,other intel is welcome an until we know more,it is impossible to be sure.
I wish my interest in History was as pronounced earlier in my life and also the internet was around with sites like this one earlier as the guys we are studying are mostly deceased by now!
Looking forward to more info,thanks,
J

[jrutman53]

Sorry to bring this forward again but I have new intel. The caption on the original picture from British sources says it was taken on the 27th,not the 26th as I first stated.
This still leaves the Pioneer Bn as the main culprit but now it could also be the II/26 PzGren Rgt,as their part of the line was pushed back to south of Cheux at this time. I am still leaning towards the Pioneers though and ObsF Kuret. Anyone? I know the II/26 had a few missing officers on daily report that day. Anyonw know who? And if so,pistures of same?
J

[Ste]

http://www.ww2incolor.com/german/POWs+Normandie2.html

A second shot of the same event

[steve248]

The only British interrogation I can find of a captured SS-Ostuf from 12.SS Divn is that of Paul Kuret.

[Ste]

A text or a photo?

[steve248]

text

[Mikedc]

Hello Ste,
You said that Ustuf Buse was taken POW on 26-06-1944. I don't know if you're talking about Ustuf Manfred Buse but according to the VDK-site he was KIA or MIA on/since 26-06-1944.
Manfred Buse ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Bayeux.

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Nachname:Buse
Vorname:Manfred
Dienstgrad:Untersturmführer
Geburtsdatum:26.12.1922
Geburtsort:Oyten
Todes-/Vermisstendatum:26.06.1944


Greetings, Mike

[Ste]

In this pos: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=108488&start=465 John Moore published an original document by the III/26 SS GrenRgt (Buse's unit) where he is reported as taken prisoner on 27.6.1944.
Volksbund databese have Buse as dead on 26.6.1944,so there's a little confusion about what happende to him,I also possible that he was taken prisoner and died after, maybe for wounds, or KIA by friendly fire or executed.

[jrutman53]

In this case it cannot be anyone from III/26(armoured group) as they were not near Cheaux during operation Epson. I would love to read the text that was mentioned about ObSturm Kuret.
J

[jrutman53]

Gentlemen,
Any new intel on this enigmatic figure? I have seen glimpses of video from British Newsreels showing the capturing and processing of some SS POWs in Normandy and was curious if they were of the same incident photographed here? Maybe the text of Kurets' interogation would clear things up? Any bits of info would be appreciated.

J

[jrutman53]

This why I am so bent on getting info. I want all of the background info I can get as I re create the scene

[jrutman53]

And the second group of POWs