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Sepp Dietrich's aides

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Post by ahlexe » 05 Apr 2013, 21:55

Who were Sepp Dietrich's aides (and when) ?
If Messenger's book gives answer, please inform forum readers on this matter.

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Post by Georges JEROME » 06 Apr 2013, 19:29

not sure complete in 30's
Adjudant IIA LAH
1934 Sturmhauptführer Hans Collani
? Sturmhauptführer Deutsch
1939 Hstuf Keilhaus
1940 Hstuf Rudolf Lehmann
1941 1942 Hstuf Wünsche
1943 stubaf Schiller
1943 stubaf Junge
1943 1944 Stubaf Beutler
1944 1945 Hstuf Meier
1945 Hstuf Lange

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Post by Pena V » 07 Apr 2013, 06:04

Here are some exact dates:
17 Oct 1934 - 23 Nov 1939...Collani Hans
15 Nov 1939 - 19 Aug 1940...Keilhaus Wilhelm
05 Dec 1940 - 15 Feb 1942...Wünsche Max
20 Apr 1942 - 22 Apr 1943...Schiller Hans
(Jul 1943) - Jul 1944..........Junge Max
12 Jun 1944 - ?? ??? ????.......Beutler Friedrich
Ernst Deutsch might have been a deputy for Collani. There is a "slot" for Lehmann from 19 Aug 1940 to 05 Dec 1940 but my files show that he was the O1 of LSSAH from 01 Oct 1940 to 01 Apr 1941 and before that he was the CO of 14./LSSAH. Some overlapping on the dates and I lack information on Meier and Lange.

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Post by ahlexe » 20 May 2013, 17:30

Thank you Mr. Jerome and Pena V.
Albert Speer mentioned Horst Walther (or Walter) as Sepp Dietrich's aide who participated in a drinking party in autumn 1943.
According to Speer, Horst Walther previously was Funk's friend.
Did you find any evidence on this person?

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Post by mty » 20 May 2013, 17:44

Who was Dietrich's adjutant pre-1934, during Stabswache/Sonderkommando/AH-Standarte era? Any details available on this?

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Post by Georges JEROME » 20 May 2013, 17:46

Only Horst Walter referenced is :
Ustuf and member of I./LSSAH on 11/42
Ostuf and z.b.v. b. Stab I. SS-Panzerkorps on 1.44
(7 others Walther or Walter with different first name in LAH)
source : C. Trang Dictionnaire de la Leibstandarte Heimdal

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Post by j keenan » 20 May 2013, 17:54

mty wrote:Who was Dietrich's adjutant pre-1934, during Stabswache/Sonderkommando/AH-Standarte era? Any details available on this?
Ernst Deutsch
d.o.b. 5.7.06

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Post by j keenan » 20 May 2013, 17:58

ahlexe wrote:Thank you Mr. Jerome and Pena V.
Albert Speer mentioned Horst Walther (or Walter) as Sepp Dietrich's aide who participated in a drinking party in autumn 1943.
According to Speer, Horst Walther previously was Funk's friend.
Did you find any evidence on this person?

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Horst Walter
d.o.b. 7.5.08
Storch-Staffel/LAH 11.42
source J P Moores Führer list

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Post by ahlexe » 28 May 2013, 16:28

Thank you for evidence on Horst Walter.
I'll be surprised if any photo of him is found...

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Post by Georges JEROME » 24 Feb 2017, 00:35

OoB 07.10.33 mention with SS-Gruf. Dietrich Adjudant Sturmhauptführer Hans Collani vorher Deutsch.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 24 Feb 2017, 01:22

Hello, Georges

That is the 3rd date I've seen today for Collani becoming Dietrich's adjutant (there's also 17 October 1934 and February 1935) :)

In any case, the photo shows the 27-year-old Ernst Deutsch, future SS-Staf. and commander of the 13th SS Regiment, 7th SS Division
(notice his characteristic shape of ears, low [broken?] nasal bridge, tired eyes with raised eyebrows, full lips, big and forwarded chin)

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Note: Deutsch is also misidentified as Collani in the very source of the photo (book "Aiguillettes of the Third Reich")
Screenshot from http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/period-ed ... ost1329301 (my note in red)
dietrich+deutsch.jpg

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Post by gunter83 » 24 Feb 2017, 10:27

His face don't similar to Collani. I have a lot of Collani's photos and on this photo definitely not him. Schneider made a lot of mistakes in ID of many Waffen SS Knight Cross holders in his own book.
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Post by Georges JEROME » 24 Feb 2017, 12:58

I've various dates upon Collani appointment as Adjudant. Dienstlaufbahn give 28.06.33 appointment date as Adjudant bei LSSAH
therefore I check in files of Deutsch.
In spite duties as Adjudant were unclear in files, definitivelly him.

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Post by gunter83 » 24 Feb 2017, 17:38

Friends, pls compare date at Ivan Ž."s photo and dates from Collani personal file (Moore's archive).
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Post by Georges JEROME » 24 Feb 2017, 23:58

Gunter,

you give a partial extract of the Dienstlaufbahn :
above the line "Frontdienst (Kp. Führer) you find the line I mention above :
1933. 28. june Adjutant bei LSSAH.

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