Waffen-SS Officer Casualty Reports 1941+

[John P. Moore]

another Schulze document giving the KIA date as 29.1.1943

[John P. Moore]

A KIA date of 28.1.1943 is found on this document and matches the date on the intercept

[John P. Moore]

A KIA date of 28.1.1943 is found on this document and matches the date on the intercept

[Mark C. Yerger]

John

Perhaps, sometimes, the NCO or EM adding to the files entered the date of the telex or other report. Also many casuality reports cover a span of time, leaving open the possibility of mistakes in record keeping. I've always found a lot of differences between the dates recorded in Berlin and a "closer" recorded date in the field like an evaluation, a promotion recommendation, or as you mentioned, a KTB. In the case of field grade personnel the KTB sometimes elaborates as to time, location, etc. I'd consider that far more accurate than an entry made after the fact hundreds of miles away. The same is true for wound dates, assignments, etc. Often the handwriten biography of the individual lists his actual date, while records keppers recorded an "official" date that is often different. Likewise, the longer after a fact its details are recorded, the greater the variety of dates appear. About the only was to confirm is to find & research the predecessor and successor at a given posting. The lower the rank and assignment, the more difficult it becomes.

Mark

[steve248]

The decoded radio messages do contain some lists and notifications of the deaths of Waffen-SS personnel in action. For obvious reasons, these predominantly list non-officer personnel. The contents of the particular radio message appeared to list one officer not on your listing so posted it for interest.

However, going back to your point of dates of death. Generally these DODs among the decoded messages were usually the day you quote or the day before.

I will try and e-mail you the particular message I quoted. I say "try" because of the nature of how the messages are listed. We'll see.

[John P. Moore]

Here is a scan of the original document that Steve sent to me today. There is obviously a wealth of information to be found in the UK archive from those intercepts.

[John P. Moore]

second page of the document

[John P. Moore]

Another intercept from Steve where the death of SS-Ostubaf. Georg Herrlitz is reported.

[Mikedc]

I've a question regarding Alfred Weber.
In this thread it's said he was with III/SS-FlaK-Abt. 5 when he died but of course there was no III. Abteilung within the
SS-FlaK-Abteilung. So I guess the III means Judge-Advocate but of course I'm not sure so hopefully somebody can help me with this matter.


Thank you,
mike

[John P. Moore]

No, "III" means the 3.Batterie in this case.

john

[Peter]

this is superb material, thanks for continuing to share it John and also Steve, wonderful data !

[Mikedc]

Hello John,

Thanks for telling me, it's totally clear now.

Mike

[John P. Moore]

Here is the KIA notice for the Ritterkreuzträger Robert Frank of the "Hohenstaufen"

[John P. Moore]

A seldom seen photo of Frank from his Personalakte

[Mikedc]

Hello John

Thanks for posting the KIA notice regarding Robert Frank...And for posting this picture as well....


Mike