SS-Staf./Ostubaf d. R. Wilhelm Goecke: NO DKiG...

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SS-Staf./Ostubaf d. R. Wilhelm Goecke: NO DKiG...

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Post by Michael Miller » 28 Dec 2006, 06:26

Horst Scheibert includes the following in Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold, Band II (page 464):

Goecke, Willi SS-Stubaf. / SS-AR 8 / 27.01.1945

This is a misprint- It was actually SS-Stubaf. (promoted SS-Ostubaf. on 30.01.1945) Willi Görcke) who received the DKiG as Kdr. SS-Artillerie-Regiment 8 of 8.SS-Kavallerie-Division "Florian Geyer" on 27.01.1945.

In the SS file of SS-Standartenführer (Allg. SS) / SS-Obersturmbannführer d. R. der Waffen-SS Wilhelm Goecke, there is a card stating he received the Deutsches Kreuz in Gold on-- 27.01.1945 (no details as to specific assignment at the time, but it points out that Goecke was killed in action, presumably by partisans, on 22.10.1944 while subordinated to HSSPF Adriatische Küstenland). I am fairly certain that a clerk at the SS-Personalhauptamt made a mistake, and that the same mistake made its way into Scheibert's book. There is nothing else in the file of Wilhelm Goecke to indicate he received the DKiG. Unfortunately, because he was killed before the 09.11.1944 SS-Dienstalterliste, and because there is no mention of wartime awards in the few documents appearing in his file, I do not know if he even received the 1939 Spange to his 1914 EK I (a prerequsite toward attaining the DKiG)- although the point is rather moot as I think it's obvious that someone was confusing Goecke with Görcke.

In The Camp Men, French MacLean, apparently relying on the erroneous info. from Goecke's file, indicates Goecke received the DKiG.

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Post by Michael Miller » 28 Dec 2006, 16:01

Well-- if that doesn't make a guy feel like a schmuck, nothing will.
Thanks for digging that up :oops:

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Post by Peter » 28 Dec 2006, 17:11

:lol: well that wasnt my intention there Mike :lol: and its reminded me of some research that I hadnt completed as well.

So from me its a THANK YOU for the reminder :wink:

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Post by Phil Nix » 29 Dec 2006, 13:09

Here are the basic details on each man
Wilhelm Goecke Born 12.2.1898 Party Nr 335455 SS Nr 21529 Staf 9.11.37 KIA Triest 20.10.44
Wilhelm Görcke born 7.9.1912 Party Nr 1298532 SS Nr 104992 Osbf 30.1.45
Note different name spelling
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Post by Michael Miller » 29 Dec 2006, 15:34

Iltis~

I should have added that I knew that wasn't your intention, and glad I could be of help in reminding you of this matter.

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