Prof. Dr. med. Carl Clauberg

[Max Williams]

I suppose by what criteria does one decide who is a member of the SS and who is not. To my mind a member must have an SS Personal file and for senior officers they must appear in the Ranklists. So if this man does not meet the criteria he was not accepted into the SS irrespective of what Himmlers secretary wrote. Possibly the intention was that he would be admitted but the final decision was that he was not accepted.Maybe Himmler accepted him but Hitler refused to sanction the entry
Phil Nix

Phil,
Hitler did not sanction membership of the SS. He had the final say in promotions to General rank.
There are a number of known SS personnel who do not have personal files for one reason or another. Whether they were lost or destroyed, question marks hang over their existence. We all have experience of known SS officers whose names do not appear in the SS-DAL. The office in the SS-Personalhauptamt responsible for updating the SS-DAL was renowned for mistakes.
The fact that neither Glücks (an undisputed member of the SS and who held General rank) and Clauberg are not mentioned in Himmler's Dienstkalender for this particular meeting tends to point towards the secret nature of their discussion and therein may lie the answer. Who knows?
Max.

[Phil Nix]

How then do we determine who was in and who was not
Phil Nix

[Max Williams]

How then do we determine who was in and who was not
Phil Nix

I think that is the crux of this thread!
Max.

[steve248]

Strange or coincidental but neither Danuta Czech in her Auschwitz Kalendarium nor the several authors of the Himmler Dienstkalendar 1941/942 mention any SS rank for Clauberg.

[Jeremy Dixon]

This is an interesting thread - someone on another thread actually gave a possible SS No & NSDAP No for Clauberg
NSDAP-Nr 21 635
SS-Nr 23 876

This may seem obvious but could Clauberg have been a member of the SS just like Albert Speer but never really promoted? I go along with a few others in this thread who say that Clauberg was probaly going to be made SS-Brigadefuhrer by Himmler perhaps because of his work at Auschwitz, but Hitler refused or nobody told him and Himmler made him an honorary SS-Brigadefuhrer in name only but still a normal S private? Hope that makes sense.

[Andrey]

It is Clauberg Carl Prof.Dr. as SA-Sanitäts-Sturmführer.
Somebody has this photo of better quality?
Thanks for any help!

Andrey.

[Dieter Zinke]

150 gynaecological instruments found in Auschwitz, formerly in possession of Clauberg ???


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-wo ... 13udr.html
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/2010/08/26 ... hwitz.html
http://www.shortnews.de/id/846455/Ausch ... g-entdeckt
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Dieter Z.

[giselher]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing that info. I assume, the instruments were found in Clauberg's former house then. He lived in a house in Auschwitz. In the Christian Dirks book on Dr. Horst Fischer there is a photo of a plan drawn by Dr. Horst Fischer in which he identifies also the Clauberg-house (unnumbered page).

Looks like he hid the instruments under floor boards or something like this (just guessing). The intersting thing behind this is that when Clauberg left Auschwitz (end of 1944 or middle of January 1945?), he must still have had hope to return to there after more successful German military campaigns to come. Did not quite happen that way....

Tilman

[giselher]

Clauberg and SS-Membership question:

Höss in his Memoirs and notes mentions both Clauberg and Schumann expressly as "non-SS-Doctors".

Source: Höss/Paskuly: Death Dealer: Non-Medical activities off SS-Doctors in Auschwitz (page 225 in my edition).

Had Clauberg claimed to be SS-member, I am sure Höss would have known. Therefore I think that this is strong evidence that he was not.

Tilman

[dante242]

Sorry if this a leap of faith but the similarity between Carl Clauberg's signature and my Flossenburg signature is striking

[Max Williams]

A leap of faith that crashes to the ground I'm afraid. Pity.
Max.

[dante242]

Thanks Max......wish I could find out who my Flossenbürg bloke was................

[Max Williams]

Thanks Max......wish I could find out who my Flossenbürg bloke was................

I think your man is Dr. Otto Rossmann. I believe he ended the war as a SS-Standartenführer in command of the SS hospital in Dachau.
Max.

[wm]

Is this of value?:

The experiments of Carl Clauberg were of different nature.
Clauberg was a full professor at the University of Königsberg, and during the war a general (Brigadeführer) of the SS.

Medycyna za drutami by Władysław Fejkiel, Warszawa 1968.

Fejkiel knew him personally. Earlier, in 1957, he wrote a paper about Clauberg's experiments titled "O tzw. demografii negatywnej, czyli o doświadczeniach prof. Clauberga".

[PF]

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