"Das Reich" Award Ceremony, April 1943
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"Das Reich" Award Ceremony, April 1943
Hi! I'm looking for pictures and information about SS-Div. "Das Reich" award ceremony on 20 April 1943. Some prominent Waffen-SS member were decorated with Ritterkreuz, like Otto Kumm, Sylvester Stadler, Christian Tychsen, Vinzenz Kaiser, Karl-Heinz Worthmann, Hans Weiß and others. The man who gave them the medal was SS-Obergruppenführer Walter Krüger...
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Here is some of the images I know from the occasion :
SS-Obergruppenführer Walter Krüger made his speech above the Tiger TIKI...
Source : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ich%22.jpg
SS-Obergruppenführer Walter Krüger made his speech above the Tiger TIKI...
Source : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ich%22.jpg
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Re: Das Reich Award Ceremony, April 1943
Hi,
You can find a pic from the same ceremony here
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... O&start=15
Best regards
Patrick
You can find a pic from the same ceremony here
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... O&start=15
Best regards
Patrick
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Thank you very much, Patrick!
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SS-Gruppenführer Walter Krüger with his men: Kumm, Tyschen, Worthmann, Stadler, Kaiser, and Weiss being given awards (awards that day were all KC except Kumm's EL, first for "Das Reich")
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Source: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... 071&page=2
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Re: "Das Reich" Award Ceremony, April 1943
Hello comrades,
who is panzer officer between SS-Stubaf. Hans Weiss and SS-Ostuf. Rudolf Ullmann?
I have two versions:
1. SS-Ostuf. Hans Pavelka, GCiG 9.04.1943 (+IC1st Class, Wound Badge in Black, Infantry Assault Badge in Bronze - on April 1943)
2. SS-Hstuf. (promoted in the same day of this ceremony 20.04.1943) Karl-Heinz Lorenz, GCiG 17.04.1943 (+IC1st Class, Wound Badge in Silver, Infantry Assault Badge in Bronze - on April 1943)
according to Peter Schuster "SS-Stubaf. Helmut Schreiber" it's Karl-Heinz Lorenz
according to S.Cazenave "Tiger!..." it's Pavelka.
in book by Biere A. "Karl-Heinz Lorenz" there are no photos from the same ceremony. The book contains many photographs of him and his face does not seem on the face of our officer.
anyone have any version and arguments?
thanks in advance.
who is panzer officer between SS-Stubaf. Hans Weiss and SS-Ostuf. Rudolf Ullmann?
I have two versions:
1. SS-Ostuf. Hans Pavelka, GCiG 9.04.1943 (+IC1st Class, Wound Badge in Black, Infantry Assault Badge in Bronze - on April 1943)
2. SS-Hstuf. (promoted in the same day of this ceremony 20.04.1943) Karl-Heinz Lorenz, GCiG 17.04.1943 (+IC1st Class, Wound Badge in Silver, Infantry Assault Badge in Bronze - on April 1943)
according to Peter Schuster "SS-Stubaf. Helmut Schreiber" it's Karl-Heinz Lorenz
according to S.Cazenave "Tiger!..." it's Pavelka.
in book by Biere A. "Karl-Heinz Lorenz" there are no photos from the same ceremony. The book contains many photographs of him and his face does not seem on the face of our officer.
anyone have any version and arguments?
thanks in advance.
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Die zweite Nummer, aber nicht auf der Tapferkeit!
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Re: "Das Reich" Award Ceremony, April 1943
Hi,
"Gunter83", thank you for this portrait which clearly shows an SS-Ostuf.
At first, I thought it was Karl Heinz Lorenz thinking to see a SS-Hstuf. see the group photo on this link:
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=149472&hilit=REUTER+OTTO&start=15
K.H Lorenz being promoted SS-Hstuf. on 20.04.43. In fact it is rather Hans Pavelka who was SS-Ostuf.
The face is more similar if we compare with a picture published by Mark Yerger in its "gÇig" vol. 2, page 95.
During the same ceremony Gert von Reizenstein photo page 130 idem is shown with the rank of SS-Hstuf., he was promoted on 20.04.43.
Regards,
Patrick
"Gunter83", thank you for this portrait which clearly shows an SS-Ostuf.
At first, I thought it was Karl Heinz Lorenz thinking to see a SS-Hstuf. see the group photo on this link:
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=149472&hilit=REUTER+OTTO&start=15
K.H Lorenz being promoted SS-Hstuf. on 20.04.43. In fact it is rather Hans Pavelka who was SS-Ostuf.
The face is more similar if we compare with a picture published by Mark Yerger in its "gÇig" vol. 2, page 95.
During the same ceremony Gert von Reizenstein photo page 130 idem is shown with the rank of SS-Hstuf., he was promoted on 20.04.43.
Regards,
Patrick
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Which are the decorations on the breast of Kaiser?AlifRafikKhan wrote:SS-Gruppenführer Walter Krüger with his men: Kumm, Tyschen, Worthmann, Stadler, Kaiser, and Weiss being given awards (awards that day were all KC except Kumm's EL, first for "Das Reich")
Source: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... 071&page=2
EK1, Wounded badge....it seems another cross and a small pin
What do you think?
Re: "Das Reich" Award Ceremony, April 1943
Kaiser's all medals you can see during RK ceremony. and list of his medals. hope it help.
+ Goldenes Parteiabzeichen der NSDAP above his medals.
+ Goldenes Parteiabzeichen der NSDAP above his medals.
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Die zweite Nummer, aber nicht auf der Tapferkeit!
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