SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 21:SS-Stubaf. Molt, Carl Günther; SS-Hstuf. Mauer

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SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 21:SS-Stubaf. Molt, Carl Günther; SS-Hstuf. Mauer

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Post by tjé » 10 Sep 2009, 18:29

Bonjour,
I'm looking for some info on SS-Sturmbannführer Molt, Carl Günther and on the SS-Hauptsturmführer Mauer, Fritz.
Thanks

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Post by freddiefro » 10 Sep 2009, 22:20

I have a little for each officer:

Molt, Carl-Günther
SS-Sturmbannführer
Born: 29.04.1914 in Stuttgart
NSDAP Nr.: 1 003 613
SS Nr.: 42 026
SS-Ustuf.: 20.04.1935; SS-Ostuf.: 11.09.1938; SS-Hstuf.: ? ; SS-Stubaf.: 21.06.1943
SS-Junkerschule Tölz: 1934
5./Sta.”Deutschland”: 04.1935
b. 1.SS-T.St.Oberbayern: [01.12.1938 SS-DAL]
OO,T.I.R.1: 05.1940
Ia,KG Schuldt: 01.1943
Kdr.III./Pz.GR.21: 04.1944
Kdr.I./1.Rgt./10.SS-Pz.Div.: [01.07.1944 W-SS DAL]
Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse
Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse
Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2.Klasse ohne Schwertern
Bronzes SA-Sportabzeichen
Reichssportabzeichen in Bronze
Ehrendegen des Reichsführers-SS
Totenkopfring der SS

Mauer, Fritz
SS-Sturmbannführer
Born: 31.03.1915 in Trier
Died: 16.11.1991
NSDAP Nr.: 4 137 174
SS Nr.: 92 510
SS-Ustuf.: 12.03.1938; SS-Ostuf.: 20.04.1939; SS-Hstuf.: ? ; SS-Stubaf.: 21.06.1944
5./Sta.”Germania”: 05.1935
SS-Junkerschule Braunschweig: 1937
b. LSSAH: [01.12.1938 SS-DAL]
OO,LSSAH: 09.1939
Kdr.II./Pz.GR.21: 06.1944
SS-Führingshauptamt: [01.10.1944 SS-DAL]
Kdr.SS-Pz.Gr.AuE.Btl.16: 01.1945
Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse
Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse
Bronzes SA-Sportabzeichen
Reichssportabzeichen in Bronze
Ehrendegen des Reichsführers-SS
Totenkopfring der SS

- Fred


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Re: SS Pz Gren Rgt 21: Stubaf. Molt, Carl Günther; Hstuf. Mauer

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Post by radevich » 11 Sep 2009, 10:07

I have such information on Stubaf. Molt:
1943 Sturmbannfuhrer: 20.4.44
SS-PzGr.AuE.Btl.10 in DAL dated 1.3.45

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Re: SS Pz Gren Rgt 21: Stubaf. Molt, Carl Günther; Hstuf. Mauer

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Post by Mikedc » 11 Sep 2009, 17:24

Hi Fred,

Thanks for the nice info on Molt. I already have around half of it so all the rest was very welcome for sure.
I also have him with SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Ausbildungs- und Ersatz-Bataillon 10 in 1945.
I also read somewhere that on 30-6-1939 he was fired from the SS by Himmler himself but apparently he came back very quickly.
And I also read somewhere that he headed an SS-Junkerschule...

Oh, and one question. When you say: 'Kdr.I./1.Rgt./10.SS-Pz.Div.: [01.07.1944 W-SS DAL]'', I guess you mean the
I. Bataillon from SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 21???

And does someone has the DoD/place of death from Molt???

Regarding Mauer I've him as CO(he succeeded B. Dietsche)from I. Btl. with SS-Fr.-Geb.-Jg.-Rgt. 14 between ?? 44 and ?? 44. In April and May 1945 he commanded SS-Pz.-Gren.-Ausb.- und Ers.-Btl. 16 at the Truppenübungsplatz der Waffen-SS 'Böhmen'.
Kdr.II./Pz.GR.21: 06.1944 I've SS-Stubaf Karl Bastian being CO in 7-44, is that correct???

So regarding SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 21 I've the following Btl. CO's...
I. Btl.
SS-Hstuf Helmut Fromme(7-44).
SS-Stubaf Carl-Günther Molt(7-44/beginning of 45).
II. Btl.
SS-Stubaf Fritz Mauer(6-44/10-44).
SS-Stubaf Karl Bastian(7-44).
SS-Hstuf Wolfgang Siebert(11-44).
SS-Hstuf Dr. Karl Segler(11-44/2-45).
SS-Hstuf Rolf Sack(?? till 21-1-45).
SS-Hstuf Karl Schober(21-1-45/??-45).
III. Btl.
SS-Stubaf Carl-Günther Molt(4-44/7-44).
SS-Stubaf Karl Sattler(10-44).
SS-Stubaf Friedrich Richter(spring 45).




Greetings,
Mike

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Re: SS Pz Gren Rgt 21: Stubaf. Molt, Carl Günther; Hstuf. Mauer

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Post by Pena V » 11 Sep 2009, 22:13

It's news to me that Karl Sattler was the CO of III/PGR 21 in October 1944. However, in my files he was promoted to Obersturmbannführer 08 Jan 1940. Was this an Allgemeine-SS rank and he held the rank of Sturmbannführer in Waffen-SS? This seems also logical because the CO of PGR 21 in October 1944 was Sturmbannführer Heinz Laubscheer.

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Re: SS Pz Gren Rgt 21: Stubaf. Molt, Carl Günther; Hstuf. Mauer

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Post by freddiefro » 12 Sep 2009, 04:55

Hello Mike,
Mikedc wrote:I also read somewhere that on 30-6-1939 he (Molt) was fired from the SS by Himmler himself but apparently he came back very quickly.
I read that too…there in an entry for Molt in the 15.06.1939 Berichtigungsheft zur 01.12.1938 DAL which notes, "von RFSS entl. 30.06.1939." Yet, within the next 4 years he was promoted, finally to SS-Sturmbannführer. That is a story I'd like to hear!

Mikedc wrote:(regarding Molt)…When you say: 'Kdr.I./1.Rgt./10.SS-Pz.Div.: [01.07.1944 W-SS DAL]'', I guess you mean the I. Bataillon from SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 21???
This is the way the entry for Molt is shown in the 01.07.1944 W-SS DAL (the 01.10.1943 SS-DAL lists Molt as Kdr.I./1.SS-Pz.Gr.Div. -KdG). I understand the 1st Regiment became the 21st Regiment in late 1943, so I don't know why the entry in the 01.07.1944 W-SS DAL:
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Re: SS Pz Gren Rgt 21: Stubaf. Molt, Carl Günther; Hstuf. Mauer

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Post by Mikedc » 12 Sep 2009, 10:38

Hello Pena,

About those Btl. CO's, I'm not sure of course if all of this is correct but this is how I read it(don't know where anymore).
And yes, if Sattler was promoted to SS-Ostubaf in 1940 that most likely was his Allgemeine-SS rank and the Stubaf-rank in 1944 was most likely his Waffen-SS rank....

And thanks Fred for confirming the part about Molt being 'entlassen' from the SS by Himmler on 30-6-39, I was pretty certain I've read that somewhere.
And yes, I also believed that SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 1 'Frundsberg' became SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 21 at the end of 43 but I wanted to make sure we're talking about the correct regiment. It seems the DAL's just had another way of writing things down....

Thanks for your posts guys, much appreciated.
Mike

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Re: SS Pz Gren Rgt 21: Stubaf. Molt, Carl Günther; Hstuf. Mauer

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Post by SchnellMeyer » 09 Jul 2019, 18:48

By any chance has anybody a photo of Mauer ? Thanks

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