Karl-Hermann Frank (dead)

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Karl-Hermann Frank (dead)

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Post by pavel michalek » 25 May 2010, 15:47

Body of the former Higher SS and Police Leader in Bohemia and Moravia Karl-Hermann Frank.

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http://simonak.eu/index.php?stranka=pages/h_k/3_16.htm

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Post by itaiv40 » 25 May 2010, 16:07

Oh "lovely"...

Why did they cut him up? Just curious.


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Post by Dieter Zinke » 25 May 2010, 16:22

itaiv40 wrote:Oh "lovely"...

Why did they cut him up? Just curious.
by no means curious, but quite simply:
... after an autopsy by a forensic doctor respectively a pathologist ! :idea:

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Post by pavel michalek » 25 May 2010, 16:51

Dieter Zinke wrote:after an autopsy by a forensic doctor respectively a pathologist
The irony is that wife of forensic doctor Oldrich Navarra, who made autopsy to Karl-Hermann Frank, helped Heydrich to hospital• in May 27, 1942 after assassination attempt on him.

• Those who knows Czech language may read it from fragment below.

http://www.obrys-kmen.cz/index.php?rok= ... s=25&cl=01

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Post by itaiv40 » 25 May 2010, 17:33

[quote="Dieter Zinke"] [quote="itaiv40"] Oh "lovely"...

Why did they cut him up? Just curious. [/quote]

by no means curious, but quite simply:
... after an autopsy by a forensic doctor respectively a pathologist ! :idea:

Dieter Z. [/quote]

Obviously, I figured it was done by a pathologist. But for what reason? You obviously don't need to determine the cause of death after you just hanged a man!

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Post by Medi » 25 May 2010, 23:28

itaiv40 thats a good point ! Why do all that after you just hung the man ? It makes no sense unless for some reason they thought they would find something .....

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Post by Sneachta » 26 May 2010, 00:07

Damn, that's a lovely photo! Thank you!!!
They could have done an autopsy to make sure that he was totally and completely dead... :) Or whether he had any illnesses that could be concidered as a reason to free him from the trial (as it was done to Gustav Krupp). :roll:
Nevermind...

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Post by JoeW » 26 May 2010, 04:22

Like the coroner Munchkin in Wizard of Oz........this pathologist must have prepared a certificate for Frank that stated: "As coroner, I must afirm I thoroughly examined him.And he’s not only merely dead, he’s really most sincerely dead."

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Post by J. Duncan » 26 May 2010, 09:40

Fascinating death photo...I'm certain more will surface. I think the picture was taken in the morgue in preporation for burial...his innerds have been taken out and notice his eyeballs are gone and his eyelids sewed shut.

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Post by history1 » 26 May 2010, 10:07

itaiv40 wrote:Oh "lovely"...

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Post by mty » 26 May 2010, 14:05

Although I am not aware of the exact legislation in Czech back then, I think it might have been obligatory to perform an autopsy in all cases of "unnatural deaths", which as an umbrella term would technically also encompass executions.

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Post by Medi » 26 May 2010, 15:52

J. Duncan wrote:Fascinating death photo...I'm certain more will surface. I think the picture was taken in the morgue in preporation for burial...his innerds have been taken out and notice his eyeballs are gone and his eyelids sewed shut.

Makes one wonder what purpose it had ? I mean in taking his eye balls and such, Or was that pay back in some way ?

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Post by pavel michalek » 26 May 2010, 16:16

Medi wrote:Makes one wonder what purpose it had ? I mean in taking his eye balls and such, Or was that pay back in some way ?
He had one glass eye and I also think it could be some sort of pay back, as Gestapo in occupied Czech lands used surgically removed heads of executed resistance fighters for other arrestee´s future interrogations.

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Post by Max Williams » 26 May 2010, 16:48

His eyes have not been removed and they are not sewn up! Pavel is correct in saying that he had one glass eye. Speaking as someone who has seen plenty of dead bodies and also attended numerous post-mortem examinations, the eyes sink back into the socket when dead. His internal organs have been removed for subsequent pathological examination. A full post-mortem examination has not been carried out on him, as there is no incision around the head where the top of the skull is normally opened to remove the brain for examination.
As far as the reason for a post-mortem is concerned, the law in most civilised countries states that a post-mortem examination must be carried out in every case of any unnatural death. Judicial execution can in no way be described as natural. There is also no suggestion of "pay back."
Personally I do not find such a photo "lovely" and I am disappointed that it is described in such a way on a historical forum. I sympathise with his family who might be faced with such an image. Regardless of the man's crimes, of which there were many, his family are innocent and should be treated with respect.
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Post by Phil Nix » 26 May 2010, 18:21

I agree with Max
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