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Post by Max Williams » 21 Jun 2011, 23:26

1) Can anyone please tell me who was Der Polizeidirektor in Esslingen in December 1941?
2) Who was the Oberst der Schutzpolizei in Stuttgart in December 1941 that signed documents on behalf of the Befehlshaber der Ordnungspolizei in the office of the HSSPF Wehrkreis V und beim Chef der Zivilverwaltung im Elsass? (His name may have begun with a "W".)
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Post by Andreas Schulz » 22 Jun 2011, 00:06

Hi Max,

Polizeidirektor in Esslingen was Otto Hoch (01.05.1941 mit der kommissarischen Wahrnehmung der Dienstgeschäfte des Polizeidirektors in Esslingen beauftragt, 26.01.1942 mit Wirkung vom 01.12.1941 zum Polizeidirektor in Esslingen ernannt).

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Post by Max Williams » 22 Jun 2011, 08:52

Thanks Andreas. Do you or anyone else know anything about him please?
Anyone know who number 2) might be please?
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Post by Andreas Schulz » 22 Jun 2011, 11:36

Hi Max,

1) I send you an email.

2) Can you show the signature of the Oberst der Schutzpolizei?

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Post by Max Williams » 27 Jul 2011, 14:09

Andreas,
Sorry for the delay, and before my thread gets hijacked by a totally unconnected question, here is the signature. Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by Georges JEROME » 27 Jul 2011, 17:20

Hi Max

Oberst der Schupo Gerhard Wieder

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Post by Max Williams » 27 Jul 2011, 17:25

Brilliant! Thank you Georges. Do you have any bio information on him please?
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P.S. I cannot find a Gerhard Wieder, but I can find Georg Wieder who became commander of Schutzpolizei in Stuttgart and was possibly a Generalmajor der Polizei at the end of the war. Could it be him?
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Post by Phil Nix » 27 Jul 2011, 18:25

Poor Georges he cannot read the data in his own book. I will help ! Georg Wieder born 19.7.1887 Generalmajor der Schupo 1.10.1943 joined NSDAP 1.5.1933 he was not a member of the SS and he was killed 15.11.1943
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Post by Georges JEROME » 27 Jul 2011, 19:18

Hello,

Yes Phil, but I found a post book source which give Gerhard Wieder (RRL 15/09/1943)

He was killed like CdS BdO Riga

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Post by Max Williams » 27 Jul 2011, 19:31

Thanks gents, but now I'm confused! Which is it, Georg or Gerhard?
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Post by Ignacio » 27 Jul 2011, 21:06

Hello Max

"Durch Erlass des RFSSuChdDtPol im RMdJ vom 5.5.1942 ... ist der Oberst der Schutzpolizei Wieder, Pol.Verwaltung Stuttgart, als Chef des Stabes zum Befehlshaber der Ordnungspolizei für das Ostland in Riga abgeordnet worden.
Oberst der SchP. Wieder hat am 16.5.1942 die Dienstgeschäfte des Chefs des Stabes übernommen."

Source: Tagesbefehl Nr. 11 dated 27.05.1942 of the BdO für das Ostland Jedicke

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Post by Max Williams » 27 Jul 2011, 22:51

Thanks.

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Post by Georges JEROME » 27 Jul 2011, 23:10

Max Williams wrote:Thanks gents, but now I'm confused! Which is it, Georg or Gerhard?
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I include extract from Reichsrangliste der Offiziere der Ordnungspolizei 15.09.1943

In more info is confirmed in Dienstalterliste der Polizeioffiziere der Schupo in Preussen 1929 and 1930 I own.

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Post by Andreas Schulz » 27 Jul 2011, 23:36

Yes, it´s the signatur of the later Generalmajor der Polizei Gerhard Wieder.
12.08.1941 - 23.02.1942 vertretungsweise mit der Wahrnehmung der Geschäfte des Befehlshabers der Ordnungspolizei beim „Höheren SS- und Polizeiführer bei den Reichsstatthaltern in Württemberg und Baden im Wehrkreis V und dem Chef der Zivilverwaltung im Elsass“ (Stuttgart) beauftragt

His bio will be in "Die Generale der Waffen-SS und der Polizei" volume 6 (ca. 11 pages + photo).

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Post by Max Williams » 28 Jul 2011, 10:00

Thanks to everyone.
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